Best tropical place to live?

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Maybe we should split this discussion into another thread since it has nothing to do with my original question.... Then again, I guess the discussion has pretty much been settled.

A1988 said:
Malta also has a special residency where you pay 15k and you can spend 1 day in a year and you are good, its elective residency, it's a hidden secret, so Malta bears Cyprus here as well.
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I didn't really understand this program.
If you spend just 1 day per year in Malta, how would this help you, unless you are from a country like Spain that formally requires you to take up tax residency somewhere else?

If you go down the regular residency route, is there a minimum stay requirement to be considered tax resident? The way I understood it, you just have to be ordinarily resident, so have an apartment, etc.?
 
A1988 said:
I would argue living conditions are better in Malta, there are mountains in the north
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Please show me where on the map the mountains of northern Malta are located. I have spent so much time in Malta and thought I had seen every nook and cranny of the islands by now.

A1988 said:
Sorry but Malta is way safer than Cyprus, we don't have immigrants from Lebanon, Palestine, Tommy robinson or Israel coming here to create more problems, by the way being in schengen as well doesn't change the fact that you will be asked to open your bags whether coming from sicily or anywhere from Europe or outside.
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You can split the crime stats a lot of different ways, but in the end both Malta and Cyprus have low crime rates. They are both very safe places to live in. The crime that does happen is the kind that's generally easy to avoid. No one is going walk up and stab you like they did Hugo, unless you are Hugo. No one is going plant a bomb in your car, unless you're conducting scathing investigative journalism involving high profile people in the upper echelons of Maltese society.

A1988 said:
I agree, Cyprus is more suited for retired people with no drive left or ambition lol. Malta is more lively, buzzing closer to Europe and much better place to run your offshore companies, with NO CFC issues if company is categorised as non domicile.
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Agreed. Cyprus is boring. Malta is more exciting. The Maltese tax regime is more favorable.

But there's a difference in what kind of businesses the two offer. Malta is hugely reliant on igaming with a small but decent fintech sector. Cyprus is a bit more varied. To an extent, that's simply a function of Cyprus being physically larger and geographically different.

A1988 said:
Also, English being an official language of Malta is a big plus whereas Cyprus has Turkish and Greek.
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English proficiency is comparable between the two. Plenty of Maltese people are uncomfortable speaking English because they only hang around with other Maltese speakers. Same way you can find Cypriots not comfortable speaking anything but Greek. There are hardly any Turkish speakers in Cyprus (assuming we're talking about Republic of Cyprus).

A1988 said:
Malta is also in schengen area plus from a geopolitical standpoint is a much better place to be than Cyprus which can be bombed or invaded any moment, maybe it won't but the risk is far greater if war breaks out.
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There are two UK military bases in Cyprus. There is a large Turkish armed presence in the north/TRNC. Greece, France, Israel, and the US are collaborating closely with Cyprus. The US views arming Cyprus and getting it up to NATO standards as a strategic objective, which is why it has been increasing Cyprus' access to buying US weapons to modernize its army and military facilities. If anyone bombs Cyprus, it'll probably be the last thing they do. Or it's part of a conflict so much larger it doesn't matter which Mediterranean island you're on.

In terms of close nearby friends and allies, Malta only has one: Italy. Libya used to be an ally before Gaddafi was strung up. Malta and Tunisia have almost nothing in common besides their languages being quite similar and some minor cultural similarities like that.

JustAnotherNomad said:
Maybe we should split this discussion into another thread since it has nothing to do with my original question.... Then again, I guess the discussion has pretty much been settled.
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At some point around page 2 or 3, it became clear there is no tropical (or subtropical) location that fits your needs. So at this point, let's just let the thread live the new life it's taken on. If you want a discussion that stays true to the tropics, though, please start a new one and tag me in the thread, and I'll be stricter about deleting off-topic there.

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Sols said:
Please show me where on the map the mountains of northern Malta are located. I have spent so much time in Malta and thought I had seen every nook and cranny of the islands by now.


You can split the crime stats a lot of different ways, but in the end both Malta and Cyprus have low crime rates. They are both very safe places to live in. The crime that does happen is the kind that's generally easy to avoid. No one is going walk up and stab you like they did Hugo, unless you are Hugo. No one is going plant a bomb in your car, unless you're conducting scathing investigative journalism involving high profile people in the upper echelons of Maltese society.


Agreed. Cyprus is boring. Malta is more exciting. The Maltese tax regime is more favorable.

But there's a difference in what kind of businesses the two offer. Malta is hugely reliant on igaming with a small but decent fintech sector. Cyprus is a bit more varied. To an extent, that's simply a function of Cyprus being physically larger and geographically different.


English proficiency is comparable between the two. Plenty of Maltese people are uncomfortable speaking English because they only hang around with other Maltese speakers. Same way you can find Cypriots not comfortable speaking anything but Greek. There are hardly any Turkish speakers in Cyprus (assuming we're talking about Republic of Cyprus).


There are two UK military bases in Cyprus. There is a large Turkish armed presence in the north/TRNC. Greece, France, Israel, and the US are collaborating closely with Cyprus. The US views arming Cyprus and getting it up to NATO standards as a strategic objective, which is why it has been increasing Cyprus' access to buying US weapons to modernize its army and military facilities. If anyone bombs Cyprus, it'll probably be the last thing they do. Or it's part of a conflict so much larger it doesn't matter which Mediterranean island you're on.

In terms of close nearby friends and allies, Malta only has one: Italy. Libya used to be an ally before Gaddafi was strung up. Malta and Tunisia have almost nothing in common besides their languages being quite similar and some minor cultural similarities like that.


At some point around page 2 or 3, it became clear there is no tropical (or subtropical) location that fits your needs. So at this point, let's just let the thread live the new life it's taken on. If you want a discussion that stays true to the tropics, though, please start a new one and tag me in the thread, and I'll be stricter about deleting off-topic there.
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Well, next time do better research, here are the links to heinous murders and killings in cyprus. I will just share 2 for now since its a waste of my time since I am not selling cyprus residency or company incorporation services.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-10284041.amp

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/25/cypriot-tv-star-accused-murder

Here is a bonus, an army officer is supposed to protect people of the country and its residents but here it's something else:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48110874.amp
 
Sols said:
Please show me where on the map the mountains of northern Malta are located. I have spent so much time in Malta and thought I had seen every nook and cranny of the islands by now.
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Here is the link, I don't know what your definition of mountain is , but in the link you will find plenty. I don't know if you were talking about Malta or you went to Malawi, maybe malawi has some mountains too?

https://peakvisor.com/adm/malta.html
 
Sols said:
The US views arming Cyprus and getting it up to NATO standards as a strategic objective, which is why it has been increasing Cyprus' access to buying US weapons to modernize its army and military facilities. If anyone bombs Cyprus, it'll probably be the last thing they do
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So basically, a country has been invaded and divided by Turkey, been continuously threatened by Islamic militants and is been raided by immigrants from the same countries which is threatening to bomb it if any of its territory is used to attack, Cyprus will be bombed before the other countries are wiped out. Israel couldn't even handle the houthis or get the hostages back from a bunch of street thugs, what do you think Cyprus can do?

Alright, I rest my case here.
 
A1988 said:
Well, next time do better research, here are the links to heinous murders and killings in cyprus.
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Not sure why I'm surprised, but you missed my point, which was that both places have similar crime rates and there's hardly any meaningful difference between them.

A1988 said:
Here is the link, I don't know what your definition of mountain is , but in the link you will find plenty. I don't know if you were talking about Malta or you went to Malawi, maybe malawi has some mountains too?

https://peakvisor.com/adm/malta.html
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I can confirm that Malawi has mountains. Malta does not. The fact that you seem to insist Malta does tells me everything I need to know. For one, the highest point in Malta is in the south west (not the north). And it's little more than a hill.

A1988 said:
Alright, I rest my case here.
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Thanks, much appreciated.

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Sols said:
I can confirm that Malawi has mountains. Malta does not
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I confirm Malta has no mountains, As an Italian with English being my second language, I was considering mountain as being the same as a cliff, hill or a peak. My bad. But I still remain confused haha.

To End the discussion, I don't sell Malta or gain anything from it, I am a resident of Malta and post regularly to stay updated and test my own structures in the process and contribute to the community in my best capacity. Cheers.
 
but Malta and Cyprus are not tropical. It's not much difference than any other place in med
 
I've been looking into Cape Town, especially Camps Bay””it's one of the most beautiful places in the world. The water is cold, but you can swim with a wetsuit, and on the east coast, it's warm all year round. Interestingly, real estate prices in top areas have nearly doubled over the past year. What's driving this? There seems to be a clear trend of foreigners buying property””Dutch, Russians. https://www.property24.com/cape-town/camps-bay/property-trends/11014

Crime in South Africa is localized. As long as you stay within certain areas, it's mostly fine. There are no bars on windows, just fences around houses or gated communities. Does anyone have personal experience living there?

There was a period when power cuts were a big issue, then it got better, but now it seems like outages are back. Does this actually affect daily life, or is everyone just installing solar panels and moving on?

Prices are cheaper than in Thailand

Is it a good time to get in? I guess I would buy a house for myself and something to rent out. There will be more remote workers and retired Europeans every year I would imagine.

Also, how realistic is it to get a passport, for example, through marriage?

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Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Bali, Fiji, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, Zanzibar Island, Diani beach (Kenya).

Rule out Thailand - it's drastically changing - everything digital and verification as well as jumping to both the US and China, and then there's taxes - still tax free for offshore (territorial) but they are getting more and more greedy so that's expected to change in the next year or two.
 
5K1PP3R said:
I've been looking into Cape Town, especially Camps Bay””it's one of the most beautiful places in the world. The water is cold, but you can swim with a wetsuit, and on the east coast, it's warm all year round. Interestingly, real estate prices in top areas have nearly doubled over the past year. What's driving this? There seems to be a clear trend of foreigners buying property””Dutch, Russians. https://www.property24.com/cape-town/camps-bay/property-trends/11014

Crime in South Africa is localized. As long as you stay within certain areas, it's mostly fine. There are no bars on windows, just fences around houses or gated communities. Does anyone have personal experience living there?

There was a period when power cuts were a big issue, then it got better, but now it seems like outages are back. Does this actually affect daily life, or is everyone just installing solar panels and moving on?

Prices are cheaper than in Thailand

Is it a good time to get in? I guess I would buy a house for myself and something to rent out. There will be more remote workers and retired Europeans every year I would imagine.

Also, how realistic is it to get a passport, for example, through marriage?
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Cape Town is fine, there's also a Germanic style wine area I looked at previously only issue is instability and wealth grabs
 
Konstanz said:
Some people from this forum live in Caribbean, even citizens of Caribbean so they know the best 🙂
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Carribean is not ideal as the islands are too small and everything is imported and because they are surrounded by the US or subservient to European nations or the UK a lot of the rules/regulations being shoved down your throats in those countries are seeping into the islands.

Naturally there are some islands not chained to mother superior - whom ever that be - but they are usually turbulent or unstable politically or socially or increasingly burdening with regulations/taxes
 
wellington said:
Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Bali, Fiji, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, Zanzibar Island, Diani beach (Kenya).
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Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, Sri Lanka - heat
zanzibar island - isl4m
Kenya - Malaria, Dengue, Zika, Chikungunya, Schistosomiasis, Typhoid, Hepatitis A, Yellow Fever, TB, HIV

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EU: Ursula. The worst disease of all. Not even this is sufficient:
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Anyway, with a random residence permit and a good sailboat you can solve all your problems.

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