Best countries/places to buy a farmland.

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Ok, I know that's different from the Usual banking/company formation type of talks that's usually posted here, but I've been interested in acquiring farmlands in different parts around the world for a while now, and I would like to know if some members of this forum share the same interests as me and can shine some light on this topic.

Having said that, buying a farmland as a foreigner offshore is not that easy! and some parts of the world are way harder than other (Asia for example, specially east Asians, are very overprotective of their lands).

So, what I'm usually looking for is minimal bureaucracy and the ability to do what I want with my land with minimal governmental interference (but that's not a deal breaker, as I'm used to deal with bureaucratic governments), However, I would like to invest in a country that has a mutual legal framework which covers foreign land ownership from A-Z without any of the BS or red tapes.

I Have my eyes on Uruguay, Georgia and maybe Chile (not sure about Chile yet). I will have to pass on brazil. So what other interesting places that you can go that are foreigner friendly and will let you buy as much acres of farmland as you want.

Thoughts? 🙂
 
Paraguay. It has also an easy︈ residency which is helpful when buying up "very precious local land".
 
No idea about the other two but be careful when it comes to farmland investing‍ in Georgia! Study the experience of South African farmers who had to go through many⁠ hoops. Furthermore, the legal system is a disaster (immature and slow) and the propagated "investor-friendly⁤ climate" usually ends once Georgia has your money.
For a start, read this (it is⁣ actually a series of ten follow up articles) Foreign citizens have 9 days to register⁢ their lands in Georgia .
And Prime Minister: “Agricultural lands mustn’t be sold to foreign︀ citizens” which reveals their true thinking.
 
I believe this is a reaction to being too‍ liberal in the beginning. Very large estates were sold for pittance to foreigners. This kind⁠ of thing always leads to a backlash. Bulgaria was a bit smarter by restricting the⁤ sale of farmland. Even EU citizens could only buy land after having resided in the⁣ country for 5 years. They may have avoided some of the Georgian excesses.
 
I would be surprised if many countries now sell farmland to non-residents. In some developing‌ countries the locals would not respect your foreign ownership. In rural areas often jungle law‍ applies and you could lose your life trying to fight a claim to land someone⁠ has taken over. I would definitely look into rule of law in whichever country you⁤ end up looking at above all else.
 
Can you tell us more? how easy? Just‍ money or also time? What are the channels to buy there?
 
Thank you for the links!. I already⁠ know about crowd funding companies and other companies that invest in farmlands, but I was⁤ talking about acquiring farmlands directly not through third parties.
Interesting. what makes it different than the other LATAM countries? specially developed ones like︀ Uruguay and Chile?
Thanks for the link man, yeah it seems like Georgia is pushing for it's EU agenda︇ pretty hard. Gone are the days of Mikheil Saakashvili, these were the best days, and︈ these are far gone, just like him 😕
It seems like the new government wants to︉ kill every thing good they once had, idk, I think Georgia is an interesting place︊ because it's close to the EU but not inside it, but if they are heading︋ towards the EU route, then I would much prefer an actual EU country like Croatia︌ (I believe their lands are one of the cheapest inside the EU) or czechia (which︍ has a great tax system for farmers)
I agree. That's why I said that I want a⁤ country that has a mutual legal framework which covers foreign land ownership from A-Z without⁣ any of the BS or red tapes. I mean if I'm being honest, the Usual⁢ "western" countries has all of that. The one who takes the cake is the "USA"︀ like it or not, it's one of the easiest countries to buy any type of︁ property whether it's apartments, lands, you name it. Next you have new Zealand where you︂ can also buy lands ( but with certain restrictions), and canada (Depends on the province)︃ plus others, so what I'm trying to say is the west is the Usually the︄ go to place for these type of investments, but I tend to believe that there︅ are untapped opportunities elsewhere and that's what I'm looking for 🙂
 
Way cheaper and easy residence. Chile just elected a︎ communist and this means no bueno for land grabbing foreigners and gringos.
Uruguay is worth️ a look indeed, but it is much more complicated and way more expensive to get‌ in and get residency.
In both you can naturalize and then be a local on‍ paper at least and with Uruguay, depending on your spanish and looks maybe a local⁠ in practice to some extent.
Paraguay is much more underdeveloped with all what comes with⁤ it and it caters and appeals to ultra low income foreigners due to its remoteness.⁣ However, I heard very interesting things out of it worth a deeper look.
You can⁢ employ guards for your land at low rates as salaries are ultra low and high︀ unemployment.
Right now you can go to Paraguay with relative ease whereas Uruguay seems to︁ be still closed and you need special assistance to get in.
Paraguay is also a︂ tax paradise (maybe one of the cheapest out there) for your offshore wealth, so tipping︃ the toe in there will not affect your overall global business / income / whatnot︄ structures, whereas Uruguay does have (time) exemptions on offshore stuff/income, but it is more complicated︅ to navigate thru its net and they seem to do everything rather by the books︆ compared to (non neighboring) Paraguay, which is much more freestyle.

In general, Id go with︇ where I had the better contacts on the ground in all three instances and in︈ case I'm fob and know no one 'd go to Paraguay, Uruguay, Argentina and then︉ Chile in descending order.
USA is maybe the best to do this and a 100k︊ investment should get the visa sorted. However, it seems a tax roach motel.
I think︋ you can pull it off in both Paraguay und Uruguay as I got the impression︌ from some of your posts. Uruguay is generally also much nicer and it has good︍ coastal areas as well and safety is also higher. Paraguay Spanish also more difficult as︎ they speak Guarani as well whereas Uruguay is very European like and has many e.g.️ Italian words in it making it potentially much easier start depending where you from ethnically.‌
 
Paraguay,Brazil,Angola,Tanzania,Argentina, (in africa you need to keep an eye on the controlled anti white movement)‌
 
I don't know about more accessible country than Mexico -‍ you can enter as a tourist, stay up to 180 days, buy land or property⁠ the second day just having your passport and cash, easy as that
 
Martin hit the nail on‍ the head. Rule of law, and treating foreigners as equals, above all else. For example,⁠ Paraguay is a great place for farmland but it has no rule of law. Taxation⁤ is another big factor. Personally, I like Panama for farmland. It is arguably the most⁣ capitalist of all the Latin American nations, it has the Panama Canal as a cash⁢ cow which adds financial, social, political stability, unlike many Latin American countries it also has︀ a burgeoning middle class because of that stability, it is a regional banking and financial︁ hub, it provides a tax exemption on the first $350k of farm income, it︂ respects the rule of law and the rights of foreign investors, and it is actively︃ promoting farming to diversify its economy (along with tourism, the canal, banking and finance, and︄ now a giant copper mine on the mostly undeveloped Caribbean coast, which is slated to︅ add about as much revenue as the canal). Panama just added two more bridges over︆ the canal, for a total of four. The growth there is astounding and the ruling︇ elite have a true respect for business and capitalism. My one criticism is how Panama︈ handled the pandemic, although that is now changing. The inland area of the Pacific coast︉ has perfect farm weather, where there is a dry season for half the year and︊ a rainy season for half the year. So water, which is a key to successful︋ farming, is seldom a factor. Buy a farm along a river and water is a︌ complete non-factor.
 
I would say Scandinavia and Germany as well as the Baltic's should have lot's of‌ farmland.
 
Exactly. If you want a farm‌ as an investment, you want to avoid food staples (wheat, soybeans, potatoes, etc.) and concentrate‍ on growing high value crops (mango, avocado, lime, lemon, pineapple, etc.) or other high foods⁠ things such as nuts. Or you want a large greenhouse that grows more ordinary crops,⁤ which maximizes the number of harvests per year by allowing you to grow crops even⁣ in the winter, maximizes yield through water optimization (e.g., drip irrigation), and eliminates disease and⁢ pests.
 
Growing cash⁢ crops and understanding crop rotation will make things very difficult for anyone with no farming︀ background 😕.
 
That is why you hire‍ a trusted, professional farm management company (with a multi-generational history of success growing similar crops⁠ in the same region) under a profit-sharing agreement, where both of your financial interests are⁤ aligned in a mutual win-win scenario. 😉 Obviously, proper due diligence and boots-on-the-ground research is your⁣ key to success under such a scheme. Farming as an investment is not a do-it-yourself⁢ experiment for novices (versus a farm as a place to live and to feed your︀ own family).
 
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