Appeal of Singapore

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I wonder what is the appeal of Singapore these days. Beside territorial tax system, I think there are much better and cheaper countries/jurisdictions in which to incorporate, live or bank.

Is Singapore's popularity just a remnant of its former glory days as shining beacon of capitalism or is there still something that makes it better than other places?
 
For someone living in China or Far East it has an appeal as a stable‌ tax haven. I know there was talk of some wealthy Hong Kongers moving assets to‍ Singapore and maybe obtaining residency there also. It still has more of an appeal for⁠ me than Switzerland for booking assets as a solid financial center.
 
It is how one places‌ certain assets. For example when you are with a private bank they can book your‍ assets (split your assets) over different jurisdictions but yet provide a single point of contact.⁠ You can for example ask them to put your stocks in a Singapore trust managed⁤ out of Singapore while you place your bonds in Switzerland and your cash in a⁣ Jersey Foundation etc.
 
sounds good. i don't have experience with private banking yet so good to know. it‌ could come handy one day.
 
* Ultra solid banks, probably the best in the world
* You get access to‌ RETAIL banks at RETAIL price. Of course if you're a non-resident, you will need to‍ pay 200-300k deposit but it's still much lower min dep and much cheaper than all⁠ Swiss banks. And safer too. Try to do frequent transactions with a Swiss bank and⁤ see what they think about it.
* Singapore has very low debt %, it's actually⁣ a SOLVENT country
* Very strong rule of law
* Great place to live if⁢ you are a fund manager, seems many of them live there
* Great school system,︀ arguably the best in the world
* Zero corruption (apparently)

The cons are that it's︁ hard to get citizenship, or PR, real estate is extremely expensive, and it's slightly totalitarian︂ with all their fines and rules and laws.
 
I would add as I lived there nearly 4 years:
+ great public transportation system‌ and MTR, you really don't need a car in SG and taxis are reasonably priced‍
+ very good Asian food, cheap food courts and restaurants or sushi chains
+ transparent⁠ rules and regulations for both individuals and companies on GOV websites
+ money that always⁤ look as new - they don't tear 🙂
+ walk friendly both over and underground
+ FAST and cheap home internet e.g. 1 Gbps for €25 per month.

- time zone⁣ if you are into watching live football. Champions League or EPL games at 3 or⁢ 4AM...
- properties are expensive. 2BR upscale property in city center with private lift, shared︀ pool but quite tiny overall cost €55.000 p.a. + utilities. Most properties have absolutely useless︁ "bay windows" (only saw them in SG really, looks like some development SCAM ...) which︂ makes the room even smaller than what they really are.
- Good restaurants are expensive︃
- groceries are very expensive if you are into European food, cheeses etc. Alcohol is︄ highly taxed and very expensive as well.
- not really a beach destination, the sea︅ is not swimmable
- the weather is pretty much always the same, hot and humid︆ 30 degrees (feel hotter due to humidity). I prefer UAE weather, at least there are︇ few months of winter relief.

Now for €55k in UAE you can get luxurious 4BR︈ villa with private pool 5 mins from JBR / Marina or 3BR luxury apartment with︉ full Dubai Marina view.
 
Actually, I was quite surprised to read this about Singapore recently, but I‌ verified it as true:
https://www.mauldineconomics.com/frontlinethoughts/broken-debt
Singapore's debt-to-GDP ratio⁠ was 131.19% in 2020, after steadily rising from 108.4% in 2017. This compares to about⁤ 105% for the U.S. and less than 50% for Switzerland. Considering this level of debt⁣ and Singapore's proximity to China, I am not sure why anyone would choose Singapore over⁢ Switzerland for banking, at least for the safety of HWI deposits and wealth management. Even︀ for the storage of precious metals, it only ranks third or fourth on the list︁ (largely because of its proximity to China).
 
This number is misleading as it doesn't take into account the︁ assets of the country.

"Gross Debt

2.5 The gross debt-to-GDP ratio is a measure of︂ a country’s debt compared to its
economic output. Some international reports list Singapore as having︃ high levels of
Government debt. These include the CIA Public Debt Factbook and the World︄ Economic
Forum. However, this does not mean that Singapore is not fiscally sustainable. For
Singapore, the use of gross debt figures does not provide a meaningful indicator of the
country’s fiscal strengths.
2.6 For example, the level of Government debt outstanding at S$562b (March 2019)︅
or 114% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP)9 appears large on its own. However, the gross︆
debt-to-GDP ratio does not take into account the Government’s sizeable asset position,
which exceeds its︇ liabilities.

Net Debt

2.7 The Singapore Government has a strong balance sheet, with assets well︈ in
excess of its liabilities (i.e. no net debt). This can be seen from the︉ investment returns
that are made available for spending on the Government Budget – or Net︊ Investment
Returns Contribution (NIRC)10. Under the NIR framework, up to 50% of the long-term
expected returns earned on the net assets (i.e. assets net of liabilities) are available for
spending. The NIRC of about S$16 billion taken into the Government’s budget in Fiscal
year 2018︋ for spending means that even after deducting all the Government’s liabilities
(including CPF monies), the︌ remaining net assets are sizeable, and they are expected to
generate significant investment returns. If︍ the Government’s assets had not been
adequate to meet its liabilities, there would be no︎ contribution from the investment
returns on net assets in the Government Budget."

Source:
https://www.mof.gov.sg/docs/default...ts/understanding-singapore-govt-borrowing.pdf
Same is written here in simpler terms:
https://commodity.com/data/singapore/debt-clock/
P.S. this site you quoted - Mauldin Economics️ - is a well known stock newsletter pusher, selling s**t like "Biotech Millionaire" Biotech Millionaire‌ - Premium Alert Service - Mauldin Economics
So I would take anything his team of‍ writers spew out with a grain of salt.

P.S.S. Debt to GDP doesn't really matter⁠ for comparison as neither Switzerland nor Singapore are going bankrupt any time soon.
As for⁤ proximity to China, this century looks so far like it is China's century. Any country⁣ that can profit from that by managing the wealth of the Chinese should do very⁢ well...
 
What I meant was that China's malign⁠ influence extends beyond its mainland, with an invasion of Tibet and a continual threat of⁤ an invasion of Taiwan. For example, there are now almost daily incursions by Chinese aircraft⁣ into Taiwan's air defense zone. At this moment, China's first aircraft carrier and its support⁢ ships are circling around Taiwan. China has tightened its grip on Hong Kong, trying to︀ decapitate the democracy movement there. It enslaves much of its its population and keeps millions︁ of people in concentration camps.

As China grows in economic and military strength, so will︂ its malign influence. Will it invade Singapore one day -- or simply make it a︃ vassal state? Who knows. But I would not want to store precious metals there. Banking︄ might be okay in the short-term, providing that you establish a fast-action backup plan for︅ your money.

Before anyone criticizes this analysis, just remember that before a year ago no︆ one thought that China would kill the golden goose of Honk Kong, one of the︇ premier commerce centers in the world. Chinese communists do not think like Westerners, so anything︈ is possible -- even great atrocities.
 
Are you talking about the invasion of Afghanistan or‍ the other half million of civilians exterminated by the US in the Irak? Or maybe⁠ the humanitarian disaster created by France, UK and the Noble prize in Libya?
 
We are talking⁠ about banking here. I doubt that anyone here is keeping their money in satellite nations⁤ of Libya and Afghanistan. If they are, then the same analysis applies.
 
No, you talked about how morally f*ck’d are people⁠ that put money too close to China.
 
I did not say that at all. I suggest‍ that you go back and re-read my post.

BTW: That is the purpose of the⁠ reply button, so that you can quote exactly what I said.
 
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