Amnis Treasury - Sounds Too Good?

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Found this online EMI - AMNIS Europe AG

They use Erste Group Bank AG on backend, so you get deposit insurance in Austria of 100k

But...Swiss corp, Liechtenstein licence, Austrian bank...why this mess?

Anyone used it?
 
I think so.

Can't say much about them yet but spoke to one of their agents and they made‌ a pretty good first impression (OBV this might deceives.)

The agent was pretty much better‍ informed than most of the banking monkeys I spoke before. (Also he was able to⁠ speak fluent German and proper English therefore I consider them to actually be located in⁤ DACH Region)

They seems pretty straight forward regarding onboarding and needed documents. Regarding jurisdictions they⁣ told me they would do UK ,GER, CH and HK Entity actually wouldn't be a⁢ problem either (That's the ones I asked for probably more are available) They definitely ask︀ for UBOs and residency, therefore needed documents differ from company to company (since I'm living︁ in a HRJ they would need SoW from me for HK Entity for example.)

They also pretty immediately asked regarding crypto exposure, therefore I think they might not be the︂ biggest fans of that.

Their business model is based on FX Rates keep that in︃ mind, therefore they require your company to make international payments in different currencies, otherwise onboarding︄ you as a client wouldn't be interesting for them (Therefore not a proper setup for︅ a holding e.g)

Might give it a try
 
Medium risk appetite (won't take most typical offshore, won't take most high risk industries), reasonable‌ pricing, and open to international businesses (cross-border transactions and cross-border ownership).
 
I spoke with them and the bottom line is that they can onboard only companies‌ where the UBO is tax resident where the company is incorporated.
 
They're handing out different informations then. Might go through onboarding and let you know.⁠

We particularly spoke about a HK LTD. with European UBO but residence in HRJ and⁤ that wouldn't be a problem.
 
That would‌ be useful for all.

I don't recognize‍ HRJ, where is that place? Maybe you meant HRK (Croatia?)
 
Currently speaking to them, will keep this updated.

Are there any alternatives to this? Bunq‌ is one, but they only onboard Dutch companies...
 
I have an account for several companies with Amnis for more than a year. I‌ am moved from Wise (which is blocking account and asking for KYC again and again‍ by different people). We collect money from our clients and subsidiaries in MENA and everything⁠ works smoothly. They even once saved money by blocking transactions to fraud account (mistakenly placed⁤ by my accountant). Time to time they might request documents for transactions, but nothing crazy.⁣ They don’t asking stupid questions again and again like CIM.
 
For MENA they told me not to have too much exposure. You use your account︀ purely for MENA ?
 
Not purely. I am using them‍ as global account. As a bank details you will have “The Currency Cloud Limited”, at⁠ their web site you can see with which countries they work:

https://support.currencycloud.com/h...*MTcwMDIyNDM3Ny4xLjEuMTcwMDIyNDM5My40NC4wLjA.
As my practical⁤ experience for me bounced incoming payments from Ukraine, Morocco.

Money from UAE / KSA at⁣ all comes instantly ‍♂️

I don’t know for how long Amnis will works as good⁢ as now and will not become Wise.
Wise even blocked my personal transfer for “silver︀ subscription” to Offshorecorptalk, thinking I am buying Silver ‍♂️
 
I would not call it a mess, perhaps. CH and LI financial world is really⁠ closely connected and AT banks are known to be more lenient than CH and LI⁤ ones... (and again, there are clear CH-AT ties...)

Generally, AMNIS IMO looks as really interesting.⁣ Although they claim to be in business since 2014, as I can see, I've never⁢ heard of them (really, it does not mean much 😉 ); but thebanks.eu does not list︀ them and neither neobanks.app. Nevertheless, their current licence is truly real, see EUCLID - Register︁ (properly licensed in LI since 2021).
Also their (presented) transparency is impressive, see Meet amnis︂ - the Platform for International Transfers | amnis – I have probably never seen such︃ an exhaustive team list, I must say.
Probably worth trying, or at least worth a︄ proper due diligence...
Interesting. Their webpage speaks about Erste (AT) only. Nevertheless, TCC is︆ good. I guess that they probably have more banking partners and perhaps use different partners︇ for different clients... (E.g. Intergiro did the same in the past.)
Both expectable from TCC, IMO.
🙂 🙂 ROTFL (but this is a Wise standard)
 
I applied for a business account, I was kindly rejected because outside of their risk appetite.
But I was pleasantly surprised by their rep Colin, who called me and explained why my company didn't fit their onboarding criteria: they don't work with companies that as part of their business act as intermediaries between buyers and sellers, because they are a small company and unable to handle the regulatory compliance required for this type of clients.
He suggested me to instead apply with worldfirst and ibanfirst 😀

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Anyone opened acc here recently?

I tried, but when i start onboard, they say, there‌ is fee of 1000 EUR for onboarding Non EU company?
 
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