100% Anonymous Offshore company with PayPal and EMI

uplana

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Been a long-time member at OffshoreCorpTalk.com I have seen a lot and read a lot about people that want to stay 100% anonymous when they do business online.

In most cases they want their privacy and anonymity because they are afraid of law-suites, personal information floating around online but there are also the one that want to avoid taxes.
Regardless what your business is, below I will explain how it is possible to setup a dark operation that protect your personal information.

There will be people that will pinpoint that this won't work because of this and that, there will also be people that will say, this is not going to work because of these and that tax or regular laws.
Fact is, this works if it is setup correct, if you are afraid to set this up, don't do it, keep on lurking around and lesson to all the wise people that never move forward but stand still.

First of we need darks, you need a passport and a utility bill not older than 3 months, standard thing nothing new here, you get it from Deep Web or from providers around OffshoreCorpTalk or Google for fake documents.
Once you have the set you start with the company setup, since we will need to receive payments by crypto and even Paypal I would suggest to setup a UK company. Remember we will only use this entity to shield your real business.

To setup a UK company you need to find an agent that accept passport and utility bill by e-mail to register the company (some may later require you to send it by postal mail, but you will never to it and that's fine) there are thousands of UK formation service providers around there, just Google them.

After the company is setup (takes 2 ”“ 4 business days in worst case) you proceed with the PayPal account, here you will need the same darks + a UK SIM card or UK number, in the Resource Section of the mentor group you can find providers for this. Now you go and setup your PayPal account, it will take you less then an hour. If you are total Paranoia, go with a VPN, look in the Resource Section of Mentor Group, I'm sure you will find something.

After your PayPal account is setup, you need something to be able to send PayPal funds to, setup a TransferWise account for this purpose. Not all countries require Video Verification I learned, so if you go for a Scandinavia darks for this purpose you will get a TW account within 20 minutes fully verified and to receive PayPal funds.

If you need to get crypto and get it exchanged too, you go and setup a AdvCash account with the darks, takes a day or too, they don't care much about the verification of the docs, so you will get your account and can receive IBAN transfers from 3rd party into that account, even if they say it is not possible and against their rules. Fact is, they can't see where this transfer comes from because it is only the IBAN number that is required to send and receive payments.

So, now you are good to go, I hope it is needless to say that your hosting, domain and everything else you need to kick start your business need to be bought in the name of the darks and paid with the accounts above to stay anonymous!! Don't use anything here that can lead to you.

GREAT ”“ you have you first real dark setup, easy rightthu&¤#

Now, you go and setup your regular business up in your own name wherever you want it to be and where you can get a bank account for that business.

You can use crypto to transfer payments between your dark operation and to your legit operation to avoid any link. This can be done using AdvCash or kraken to convert crypto to FIAT.

For that you will need to setup an AdvCash or kraken account for your real setup and receive your payments in crypto to these accounts and exchange it. Both is a straightforward process and requires not more then a few hours of your time.

PLEASE NOTE: This is not a setup that will protect you from any illegal activity or that shall be used for something illegal it is just an illustration about what is possible. I don't say it is a way to do things I just describe what is possible.

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Advcash SEPA transfers are under maintenance since 2.4. This is in their news on the homepage:

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Please note that deposits and withdrawals with SEPA bank transfers are currently not available due to maintenance.

We expect these features to return to normal operation in the nearest future.

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Your description looks nice, but you will definitely encounter a lot of difficulties when working with EMIs. TW or AdvCash often closes accounts unilaterally, does not work with many countries, treats shareholders from the CIS or Arab countries badly, and many other problems.
It is much more practical to open a company with a bank account in the same country, competently in bookkeeping, show small profits and pay minimal tax. And also output everything to the crypto, but only without troubles.
 
It's about to age accounts and maintain them for future use. It's not easy but well possible.

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Bank transfer works again in advcash also they dropped fees 5e + 0.69% for withdrawal. Paid to my own account and it works. I did not test account of others.

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The below sounds great, but a couple of questions:

1) How do you pay the formation company? It sounds like this comes BEFORE the paypal account is open, so how to pay them, whilst keeping yourself anonymous?

2) You mention UK corp set-up but Scandinavia darks for the TW account... so is this a personal TW account, or business? Is this different Darks that were used to open the UK corp, then? Sorry for all the questions!

3) Sorry, 1 more Q. How about getting debit cards sent to cash-out of the digital side of things, into FIAT currency? Do you find a virtual office and, if so, how do you get your hands on the debit card, without having it shipped to your real address?

Thanks 😀

uplana said:
Been a long-time member at OffshoreCorpTalk.com I have seen a lot and read a lot about people that want to stay 100% anonymous when they do business online.

In most cases they want their privacy and anonymity because they are afraid of law-suites, personal information floating around online but there are also the one that want to avoid taxes.
Regardless what your business is, below I will explain how it is possible to setup a dark operation that protect your personal information.

There will be people that will pinpoint that this won't work because of this and that, there will also be people that will say, this is not going to work because of these and that tax or regular laws.
Fact is, this works if it is setup correct, if you are afraid to set this up, don't do it, keep on lurking around and lesson to all the wise people that never move forward but stand still.

First of we need darks, you need a passport and a utility bill not older than 3 months, standard thing nothing new here, you get it from Deep Web or from providers around OffshoreCorpTalk or Google for fake documents.
Once you have the set you start with the company setup, since we will need to receive payments by crypto and even Paypal I would suggest to setup a UK company. Remember we will only use this entity to shield your real business.

To setup a UK company you need to find an agent that accept passport and utility bill by e-mail to register the company (some may later require you to send it by postal mail, but you will never to it and that's fine) there are thousands of UK formation service providers around there, just Google them.

After the company is setup (takes 2 ”“ 4 business days in worst case) you proceed with the PayPal account, here you will need the same darks + a UK SIM card or UK number, in the Resource Section of the mentor group you can find providers for this. Now you go and setup your PayPal account, it will take you less then an hour. If you are total Paranoia, go with a VPN, look in the Resource Section of Mentor Group, I'm sure you will find something.

After your PayPal account is setup, you need something to be able to send PayPal funds to, setup a TransferWise account for this purpose. Not all countries require Video Verification I learned, so if you go for a Scandinavia darks for this purpose you will get a TW account within 20 minutes fully verified and to receive PayPal funds.

If you need to get crypto and get it exchanged too, you go and setup a AdvCash account with the darks, takes a day or too, they don't care much about the verification of the docs, so you will get your account and can receive IBAN transfers from 3rd party into that account, even if they say it is not possible and against their rules. Fact is, they can't see where this transfer comes from because it is only the IBAN number that is required to send and receive payments.

So, now you are good to go, I hope it is needless to say that your hosting, domain and everything else you need to kick start your business need to be bought in the name of the darks and paid with the accounts above to stay anonymous!! Don't use anything here that can lead to you.

GREAT ”“ you have you first real dark setup, easy rightthu&¤#

Now, you go and setup your regular business up in your own name wherever you want it to be and where you can get a bank account for that business.

You can use crypto to transfer payments between your dark operation and to your legit operation to avoid any link. This can be done using AdvCash or kraken to convert crypto to FIAT.

For that you will need to setup an AdvCash or kraken account for your real setup and receive your payments in crypto to these accounts and exchange it. Both is a straightforward process and requires not more then a few hours of your time.

PLEASE NOTE: This is not a setup that will protect you from any illegal activity or that shall be used for something illegal it is just an illustration about what is possible. I don't say it is a way to do things I just describe what is possible.
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John82 said:
Your description looks nice, but you will definitely encounter a lot of difficulties when working with EMIs. TW or AdvCash often closes accounts unilaterally, does not work with many countries, treats shareholders from the CIS or Arab countries badly, and many other problems.
It is much more practical to open a company with a bank account in the same country, competently in bookkeeping, show small profits and pay minimal tax. And also output everything to the crypto, but only without troubles.
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Sounds interesting, but... How do you cash-out the crypto anonymously, without getting hammered on exchange rates of folks on localcoins etc? Would appreciate soem tips on that! (I know there are crypto cashpoints, but many seem to need a photo take live, with ID held next to the person!). Any thoughts?
 
here2learn said:
Sounds interesting, but... How do you cash-out the crypto anonymously, without getting hammered on exchange rates of folks on localcoins etc? Would appreciate soem tips on that! (I know there are crypto cashpoints, but many seem to need a photo take live, with ID held next to the person!). Any thoughts?
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Answer: work through an agent, provider, who will take on issues of anonymity and possible risks.
 
John82 said:
Answer: work through an agent, provider, who will take on issues of anonymity and possible risks.
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Sounds good. Any hints as to where to look for this? Not looking for a step by step guide as that'd be cheeky! But any info where to research would be great! Does the agent need to know your real ID, or can they be set-up using darks???
 
here2learn said:
Sounds good. Any hints as to where to look for this? Not looking for a step by step guide as that'd be cheeky! But any info where to research would be great! Does the agent need to know your real ID, or can they be set-up using darks???
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I assume you can find them on this forum)
 
As mentioned here, check signatures of the many providers we have around here lately. There are providers around, most of the more reputed are also working fine with darks as long as you don't tell them anything about it.

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John82 said:
I assume you can find them on this forum)
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blueweb said:
As mentioned here, check signatures of the many providers we have around here lately. There are providers around, most of the more reputed are also working fine with darks as long as you don't tell them anything about it.
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Thanks both. I keep looking, but must look harder I guess at people's signatures! Even then, though, with an agent... Surely that agent has to know your real address or meet you in person, to get the ID or cash to you? Sorry for all the Qs, just have managed to understand most of this, just stuck at the cashing-out part (particularly getting a card delivered!).
 
In my country Ive found some exchanges where they don't ask me any info, I just transfer crypto, then the guy coming to my place and give me cash with no passport, no questions.

same when im buying crypto for cash

I just give him cash and in 30 minutes I get my crypto deposit

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What country is it, Russia or Romenia?

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does anybody know in what EMI I can open an account without live verification only with scans of passport and proof of address?
 
off42 said:
Paysera, Leopay, Wittix - don't
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I agree most of these don't require any video verification depending on which country you live in or use for the registration.

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