“If we stick with the financial system as it is, it leads inexorably towards total control of your life”¦the state having total control over what people spend, how they can spend it, how much they can spend, and what you can buy.””” Alex GladsteinAlex Gladstein is the Chief Strategy Officer at the Human Rights Foundation and Natalie Smolenski founded and leads the Texas Bitcoin Foundation. In this interview, they discuss how Bitcoin is a cheat code for human rights, privacy, sovereignty and the reciprocal loss of trust.