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If you are asking me this, I recommended you to get information about UAE (or Dubai) before you consider to move. 🙂
Honestly, if your revenue is that low, you can even consider Switzerland. Just don't come complaining later that the kid's daycare cost as much per week of what your brother pays in France. But that goes for all tax free places.
Oh it's tax free until more than 100k. Say you earn 250k USD, and take 150k as salary, leaving 100k as tax free profit. And 150k USD is a very reasonable salary for a CEO and founder of a successful small business.
Yes, you have to show three month's bank statements with earnings of the equivalent of at least 3500 USD (in any currency really).
See here Work remotely from Dubai | Business in Dubai
And this reddit thread is useful too
https://www.reddit.com/r/dubai/comments/119weqw/remote_work_visa_renewal_in_2023_the_complete
The visa or residence permit needs to be renewed every year, but it's a fast and (for Dubai) inexpensive process to renew it.
In the 4k to 5k USD range Id say. Remote worker is only about 1200 AED which is about 330 USD. Plus health insurance, but there are very cheap health insurance offers in the UAE.
I think the 30% is if you have a local company. if you have a foreign company it can be zero I believe, but I not sure about PE rules on Malta. I just have an acquaintance there who is non dom and paying zero tax, but not sure about the details. I have to do more research on Malta!
For remote worker in Dubai, best to do it yourself, there is good information, and Dubai government staff are very helpful at least in person. Online government help is so so though, and the first step is online and a bit confusing, but manageable - look at the link to that reddit thread above.
For setting up a company in Dubai best to get a professional agency to help with that I think.
Malta, well, search for Malta on this forum and search generally. It's an EU country after all, the info is out there!
I'll, 've been interested in this since yesterday when I had my accounting appointment so I got a lot to learn!
I'll look into all those infos, Thanks a lot!
Not if you go the remote worker route with a foreign company, say a US LLC. Then it's just 330 USD per year plus health insurance to maintain residency in Dubai. And accounting and audit, not sure that is required for a foreign company - dont think that is totally clarified yet.
And a 1 bedroom apartment in Dubai is actually cheaper than a comparable apartment in major Western cities. The 3000-4000 mentioned is AED, but even 5000 AED or 6000 AED is cheaper than a 1 bed in say London or Dublin.
Another point here is that one doesn't have to spend all time in a single place. If one spends just less than half year in Dubai, there is no tax and no reporting requirements in Dubai. And then one can spend the rest of the year in some reasonable place(s) that also will not tax you.
where are these apartments for 5000 or 6000 AED out in the desert? You won't get anything decent for that price in the city my friend.
Ok, so enjoy the life in Dubai as pakis and filipinos. Al Barsha, Bur Dubai and Deira is your place with less than 2500 euros per month.
Do you know if you qualify for tax residency with nomad visa?
Please, don't provide unprofessional information to people. France will require you to be a tax resident in some place.
He come back from the past...
OK, so affiliate income.
Currently, pulling in 5/7k euro per month clear profit? So, about 60k euros a year?
I would probably base my decision on how long your track record is for pulling in that amount regularly. I'd wait a bit if you have only done that for 1 or 2 months. I haven't touched dating offers, but I imagine traffic sources can get killed, or your competitive advantage dries up quickly in that field.
Or if you've been pulling in that amount regularly, I think your options would be:
Optimise your French setup to pay less tax.
Or look at moving elsewhere where you'd pay less corporation and income tax than you currently do. I think at 60k profit a year, you could make some savings vs France, but depends on your situation. If you're a single guy with no real ties to anywhere, then the world is your oyster so to speak....
Of course, for the moment I just take infos so I'll have the knowledge when I'll really need it!
In France it's really hard to optimize you tax when you are between a very little company and a large one.
For the moment I got no ties so that's why I'm taking info of where I could go this year if my activity keep getting good results!
Come on, everyone doesnt have to live in a villa on the Palm! I just went to propertyfinder and searched for rentals below 72k AED per year, ie 6k AED per month. Guess how many results I got? ...28,966! try yourself! And most are in totally fine areas, even 323 in Business Bay, and 50 in Marina. But also areas that are slightly off the center such as JVC, Sports City, Meydan etc, have great apartments, and are way nicer than what you get for the same price in the suburbs of say London, Stockholm, or Paris
Where did you get 2500 euros per month from? At that level, yeah, I wouldnt recommend Dubai either. But he did say 5k to 7k EUR per month.
Most western countries do not require you to be a tax resident somewhere. France, Spain and Italy are a bit more tricky I think. Im no expert on France, but I know how Italy works. There it's really difficult just to register as an Italian living abroad in a tax haven such as the UAE, you have to prove that you have a real reason to live there and are not just moving for tax reasons. So you dont move straight from Italy to the UAE directly, you register as an Italian living abroad in some third country.
I assume France is somewhat similar, and as long as you dont have your centre of vital interest in France, there s got to be some way to get out of the French tax net, and ultimately live in Dubai.
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anything for 6k AED in the city will be terrible. I know because I live here. Where I am now is 7k EUR and it's just about decent nothing special.
Ok, 7k EUR that's 27,861 AED per month or 334k AED per year. At that price you get large villas with landscaped gardens and next to golf courses in Dubai. (Again I just searched and thats what came up) Even at that price point, you get more for your money in Dubai than in major western cities.
But not being happy with that - calling it about decent, nothing special - is a bit like a centi-millionaire being annoyed that his billionaire friend has a slightly nicer private jet. And a centi-millionaire thinking flying commercial even in first class would be absolutely terrible.
There really are beautiful 1 beds and studios in Dubai in good locations for 6k and below (send me a dm and I can send photos). And the point is you get more for your money in Dubai in terms of real estate than in major western cities. So you get both tax savings and property savings (or nicer property at the same price). In some other thread I made a comparison of 10k GBP before tax earnings per month between Dubai and London, and one is just way better off in Dubai - also because of cheaper property.
Have you ever even been to Dubai? If you think you are getting somewhere decent in the city for 6k AED you are living in a dream.
And even if you found some places on property finder a lot of them put better pictures as to what your actually getting in reality.
Are u serious? With 5000-7000€ per month, as he said, you can get a decent apartment of 2 bedrooms in one Address or something like this level. Not a penthouse, or a luxury villa. The villas that you talk are unfurnished.
Dubai market in the last years come to overpriced, specially after russians come (more russians i mean).
With 6000 AED you can get a shared room in a normal building like Damac or these buildings (which tecnically are s**t).
6000 AED....yes, an studio in desert.
Try to call to realtors (which tons of fake ads in Property Finder and Dubizzle), and get an apartment in downtown, Marina, Palm Jumeriah, Bluewaters or City Walk, which are the beautiful place in Dubai for living.
It's been a secondary home base of mine for many years. I own a few properties there so Im seeing the actual market price from direct demand. I know the Dubai property sites dont always show what you get, but overall the price level on property finder is in line with what Im observing directly from potential tenants.
I think that for him a good life is an studio apartment in isolated area and eat for 8 dirhams in one of these karaks where go to lunch the taxi drivers.
If not, i lived in other city than Dubai.
I was living in Dubai from 2018 to 2020 (left Dubai in february with pandemia).
And my expenses monthly was around 6-8k euros.
My rent in Address Downtown was 15.500 AED (everything included). And my cost of living for the rest of live was around 2500-4000 € per month.
Come on! You go out to lunch and party one friday and spent 1000 AED minimun.
And it was 2018-2019, when the real estate market was down.
Ok, that was just a quick search, and I picked anything above 334k AED, and there were some really nice places. Didnt check if it was furnished or not.
Bro, even you don't check if the ad was real or not. A lot of realtors publish fake ads to get leads. Later you call them and they say that it was rented but they have other options.
If you go with small budget, they even don't reply you anymore.
The reality of Dubai is totally different as you said.
Dubai is snob place. Without spending money, the only contacts you can get are taxi drivers, servers and cashiers. The life in Dubai not is the same in Europe.
European people living in Dubai are people with high salaries living in good areas. In "normal" areas you talk, just will involve with indians, pakis, filipinos, vietnamise, africans, and people who come to Dubai to work in hotels, restaurants or low salary jobs.
That's kind of true though. You can live in Dubai - or any city really - at a 500k to 2M EUR per year income, and that will be like a different city than someone living on a 100k EUR per year income.
I make good money, but Im trying not to lose touch with people in the 50k - 150k EUR range, which is still above average in both the world and in the West.
If you make in the 500k - to 2M range I guess the 50k to 150k EUR range is so far down to you, so you cant really make a difference between a pakistani taxi driver earning 700 EUR per per month, and a budding entrepreneur earning 5k to 7k EUR per month. But for the people in the 700 EUR to 7k EUR per month range the difference is huge, and the places they live in are vastly different.
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