What is the most anonymous crypto currency to pay with?

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I heard GRIN coin is a new privacy coin under development. Trading on many exchanges‌ already.
 
Get your BTC, on a “anonymous pc” (vpn+tor+vpn and let say virtual machine with windows)‌ set up a wallet app and receive your btc. Then convert it to dash /monero‍ etc. and transfer to “anonymous pc2 or hardware wallet.

not sure why you want to⁠ do such conspiracy because most of the things we do is within legal framework.

worst case as someone suggested you could send it to exchange which is verified to “someone⁤ one else” but you have control of the account.
 
do you believe this is still a valid solution, if you would set a percentage to⁠ how secure this is, how many percent would you rate it, 80, 90% more?
 
80% secure. You want to make sure you use a NEW COMPUTER or other NEW‌ DVICE to access to the Internet. Every device you use has to be paid without‍ your name and in CASH!
 
I would say it is 99.99% secure. Using new computers⁠ is ot required as I mentioned you can do the whole process with virtualbox machines⁤ either windows or Linux. I would set it up dry easily to hide my trails⁣ but you can also do the same.

mostof the problems happen when people try to⁢ cash large amounts and get into situations like in another thread where receiving bank might︀ ask you for source of funds etc.

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how will you access these virtual boxes ? you will leave trailing logs.‌
 
It is possible to hide the trails. I’ve done several set ups‍ for reporters visiting various areas where they check your computers etc and no issues.

as a ready out of the box set up check kodachi os, it is pretty much⁠ set up for you, just need to select proxies or vpns to hide the tor⁤ exit nodes.
 
How would moving BTC from one wallet to another be private? It can all be‌ traced on the blockchain anyway, so there is always a chance that some logs or‍ whatever from the first transaction can be matched together - if a LOT of resources⁠ is put into it, of course!

There is a reason that hackers breaching exchanges often⁤ leave, or move around their coins without being able to cash out in fiat -⁣ there are lots of scammed people following the transactions...

Exchanging into Monero on the first⁢ device and then back to BTC on the second, completely untraceable one though - then︀ there should be NO way of tracing this!

You'd end up with BTC that you︁ can provide no provenance for of course, but that should be what you actually want︂ in this case 🙂
 
There's some tools to hide Btc flows︃ using multiple transaction, quite costly but effective
 
Bitcoin has paper wallets you can get from ATMs and a few other places. On‌ and off, a few private companies have issued physical Bitcoin tokens.

The first and the‍ last to approach a central KYC hub will be identified (either to buy or to⁠ cash-in). Anything that happens in between remains untraceable, off the public ledger.
 
Does anybody know a stablecoin mixer/tumbler? I would like to avoid exchanging to another cryptocurrency.‌
 
Because of the exchangers KYC? There are solutions for this‍ problem.
Mixers/Tumblers are useless. If you want to break the trail you need to exhange.⁠
 
It's impossible to set a precentage for this.
Every code⁠ has bugs and so it's just a question of time when it is possible to⁤ trace the transactions of this setup.
But i assume it will take 10 years or⁣ more.
 
Not news-worthy‌ info that a buyer of a physical token or paper wallet of significant value is‍ subject to KYC.

But nobody said that the person who bought it can't trade that⁠ wallet/token to someone else, like drugs for cash, but drugs for a BTC paper wallet⁤ instead.

KYC/AML applicable to crypto ATMs assumes that the buyer transfers coins to his own⁣ wallet. That's also where virtually every BTC privacy-penetration software is vulnerable and easy to mislead.⁢
 
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