Stripe exceeded the tax threshold

[Cari]

From 2025 VAT rules are changing for digital goods. Do you think that starting from⁤ 2025 even the phone calls/online calls will have the place of supply in the EU⁣ and are going to be subject to VAT?

Also, do you know if there is⁢ any EU agency, that we could ask directly the opinion whether VAT has to be︀ charged? Like request for a tax ruling or smth?

 

[daniels27]

It mainly is for virtual events, i.e. with many people. I personally think your case would⁣ not fall under this.

You can always call the German ta hotline, they are quite⁢ helpful
https://www.bzst.de/DE/Behoerden/InternationaleAmtshilfe/TaxRulings/tax_rulings_node.htmlI probably would call them and ask how and where to send a︀ ruling request if this is available for VAT and then specify that you are looking︁ for the 2025 edition of the law.

If you have no ties to Germany and︂ the EU and are just paying VAT, I probably would not worry too much as︃ they normally won't audit you in the Bahamas.

 

[pesto]

Typically you ask a tax firm for such advise, they are most often up to date⁣ with the rules.

 

[Cari]

I do have connection to the EU and that is why I would prefer to be︀ 100% sure what are my obligations.

that is the issue. We did request several opinions from the companies that are specialized︃ in VAT. The conclusions were absolutely different. Some say we have to charge it, some︄ say we dont. Thus I would rather have an opinion directly from any tax authority.︅

 

[daniels27]

Typically you should not. Typically you‍ should:

• read the law
  
• read the cases
  
• think about it
  
• (if you want, ask a⁠ lawyer if there is anything you may be missing)
  
• ask the tax guys directly
  

Remember

• any legal advice is only as good as you are able to present a complete⁤ picture (which is much harder than you may imagine)
  
• it is always you who loses⁣ the a*s (and your legal fees), and always the lawyer that keeps his a*s and⁢ gets your money
  

Then, you best get a binding tax ruling.
https://www.bzst.de/DE/Behoerden/InternationaleAmtshilfe/TaxRulings/tax_rulings_node.htmlhttps://skat.dk/de-de/hilfe/bindenden-vorbescheid-beantragenhttps://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/taxation/vat/vat-directive/vat-cross-border-rulings-cbr_enWhich country do you︂ have connections or will be the country of registration in the EU?