Russian President Putin announces military operation in Ukraine

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Are you stupid ?
They left Kherson because they could not deliver supply⁤ anymore as bridges got destroyed.So they could choose to hold Kherson and lose thousand of⁣ soldier or step back and get into a better position.
Secondly it was Biden who⁢ asked/demanded from Ukraine to talk with Russia not the other way round.

Seriously your never︀ ending propaganda of ukraine winning the war gets boring

Also about Mazda

They are not︁ leaving Russia but just changing structures to not be forced by western governments to close︂ their doors there
 
Hahah the Kyiv Independent a trusted source. This has to be a troll account or the⁣ he/she, they/them, zhe is seriously lacking in grey matter.

The Kherson withdrawal makes sense. It's⁢ only another social media victory where the Ukrainians can video themselves hoisting the flag and︀ the western cheerleaders will go wild.

The reality on the battlefield is far different and︁ is not decided by pyrrich victories like this. Look at the loss differentials. It will︂ get real serious when these mobilised forces turn up in the next few weeks.
 
Well, for‌ example, the recognition of this territory as a terrorist country, which will be considered by‍ the European Union this week. Ban their citizens in all financial institutions of developed countries⁠ (since they are already so stupid, and do not want to change policy and love⁤ their dictator). Many things...
 
Can you elaborate on⁤ how Russia would be recognised as a terrorist state? What is the act of terrorism⁣ it has committed?

Banning all citizens from a specific country, sounds very strange. I thought⁢ one of the pillars of the lovely western democracy that everyone is so envious of︀ is that collective punishment for all based on the actions of a few is wrong.︁ When did that change?
 
and soon they will retake crimea! bravo!

ukrainians should‌ be proud to have this man as their leader
(needless to say, in illiberal russia‍ it would be impossible for a jewish comedian to become president):
 
Leader lol. What is he⁠ leading? He's a hand-picked puppet by the USA, funded by an oligarch who isn't afraid⁤ to employ neo n**i muscle to get the job done.

Just in case you aren't⁣ aware, he isn't leading anything. He's a nobody, even Russia didn't bother blowing him up⁢ in Kherson when he visited, seems like they're happy to have the coke head of︀ Kiev causing those at the top table the odd headache.
 
What do⁣ you have in mind? For example, they daily launch Iranian drones on the infrastructure of⁢ Ukraine, killing ordinary civilians. This is terrorism. And this territory, with its under-dictator and stupid︀ people who love him, should be recognized as terrorist at least. This country is a︁ cancerous tumor on the globe. And Ukraine is now essentially a barrier between them and︂ Europe. Their moronic king once said that russia ends in Lisbon. I think his hint︃ should be clear.
 
Power, ammunition and transport infrastructure⁢ is a legitimate military target. Russia's strikes are extremely mild compared to the USA's carpet︀ bombing of Iraq before boots on the ground. The lights were out from day one.︁ Do you have some examples where they have hit civilians solely?

What do you feel︂ about Ukraine's shelling of Donbas since 2014? Cities with no military interest. Thousands of civilians︃ were killed. There is plenty of footage of it. Is this terrorism?

Where have you︄ read about Russia's expansionist goals and do you have a link to where they have︅ hinted they plan to capture all of Europe? I do not see that. I see︆ their actions as defensive. The proposed European security framework was offered in December 2021 and︇ seemed reasonable...
 
Totally correct!

Not only this, look at what Putin himself⁢ is doing and who benefits from ALL his actions!

1. Putin started a huge war,︀ causing big damage to Russia's army, so badly that they need to recruit civilians and︁ reservists.
Who benefits from this huge war? People who sell arms and weapons, primarily the︂ United States.
2. The war also led to a big increase in oil price, who︃ benefits from it? That's right, the United States once again which is a huge Oil︄ producer.
3. Putin's war also led to an invigoration of NATO and a big increase︅ in spending towards Nato by the EU and Europeans - Who benefits? You guessed it︆ right, the United States once more.

So it's clear, Putin is a puppet of the︇ United States, can't argue with facts 😉 clow#¤%
 
Are you Ukrainian?︂ Do you live in Ukraine? Have you been there at least once? Apparently not, because︃ you are telling an outright lie...

1. On February 24, fucking russland country of orcs︄ and absolutely crazy president attacked independent Ukraine, starting just like that to shell its territory.︅ Some my friends there almost died evacuating from Kyiv when stinking russian rockets flew into︆ it. What are you talking about? Yes, I have examples when russia threw rockets exclusively︇ at civilians (to the trade center, to the energetics companies and so on). This is︈ how several of my friends died in the shopping center of one city, where rockets︉ from stupid russia flew in.

2. Donbas - is UKRAINE. It's part of Ukraine. It's︊ just ukrainian region. Like for example Bordo is part of France. Munich (Bavaria) is part︋ of Germany. Since 2014, russia has sponsored terrorists there (in Donbas). Ukraine, unfortunately, did not︌ have the power to oust them. What other questions? Imagine if, say, russian-sponsored torrirists appeared︍ in Alaska and started calling for joining russia. Do you think the US would just︎ let Alaska go? Or not? I think no. So why did Ukraine have to give️ away part of its territory just like that? Don't fall for russian propaganda. ALL russian‌ is originally a lie. Look how many people have died in Donetsk over the years‍ since 2014. 5-7? Or 10? More or less like this. And they were terrorists. There⁠ weren't and aren't any thousands of deaths! It's all lies! Moreover, where do you think⁤ they got their weapons from, these terrorists? Naturally, they were given it by a moronic⁣ country called russia.

3. That is, russia attacked a neighboring independent state, killed hundreds of⁢ thousands of people, tried to seize the CAPITAL of neighboring country, captured Kherson (fortunately, the︀ Ukrainian army had already liberated it) or a couple of cities. And you call it︁ defensive action? Are you out of your mind at all? Attacking foreign territory, capturing the︂ cities of a foreign country - are these defensive actions?

Just look this - Rashism - Wikipedia - maybe will help you to understand what's going on.

The only thing︃ that russia has achieved is that it is now hated by ALL Ukrainians, as well︄ as by most people in the civilized world. This moronic country must be destroyed. And︅ I hope this happens soon. Since the ideology of "rashism" is the most terrible and︆ terrible thing that exists on earth at this point in time.
 
Dreamy,

You don't need to waste time for arguing with people here.

Most of them‌ are simply russians. It's a even funny, that they move their asses to the west‍ countries but continues spread lies about how russia cool country and how bad collective west.⁠
Double funny that they actively reject this fact, despite they have messages in russian language⁤ in forum and they disscuss things about moving assets from russia.
truely 'great' nation.

Single advice for such people - to follow their own words and come back their asses⁣ to their native tagil, kolyma, siberia etc.

Another few are just pure haters of the⁢ western world and no matter what is going - they will just blame west for︀ every problems in the world. Death of civilians in Ukraine and terroristic behavior of russia︁ - it's absolutelly not their interest. They don't care.
 
You are emotional about it. Which is fine, but it does︀ mean you can't view the conflict with any rationality.

I'm not Ukrainian, I've been. I︁ have staff there who have very different views, from extreme nationalists in the west, to︂ those indifferent in Kiev, to those in the East who are very pro Russian. I︃ know all about it.

Simpletons and virtue signallers break it down to "Putin bad", "Ukraine︄ good" which is asinine.

And their timelines also only begin in February 2022. Mine starts︅ about 15 years earlier.
 
100%

I would say 99% of pro-Putin⁤ crowd especially in this forum are just "independent thinkers", people that got so deep into⁣ conspiracy theories they think Putin is the defender of the free world and is fighting⁢ the New World Order, the Illuminati and the (((banking cartel))) that owns us all. Complete︀ mental institution type people that sees conspiracies in everything and live in a fantasy world.︁

I don't think they are bad people, they just got too deep in the rabbit︂ hole. Almost all of them are Western / European (for some reason Germans really LOVE︃ these theories), never been to Russia and never spoken to anybody that escaped the hellhole︄ that is the Soviet Union.

No point arguing with these people, they believe they have︅ some secret knowledge and anybody that thinks otherwise is "sheep" that has been brainwashed by︆ the media. A very particular kind of cult that is almost impossible to de-program from...︇ They could see Putin eating a child and they would say "ah this child was︈ evil Illuminati child". Anything that doesn't fit their distorted world view is simply blocked from︉ their consciousness as "fake news"
 
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