panamalaw.org AKA Panama Legal SCAM - WARNING - LEARN - SCAM

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Have read all the forums about this company, it comes down to 1 thing, they‌ are a huge scam, even the information they provide on their website are to 90%‍ to be considered false, reading between the lines, they made use of a well known⁠ marketing trick (which obvious could have been made much better) take all the competing products⁤ on one site including your own, put a bad review on all other products /⁣ services - it has to be not that negative to keep the trust - now⁢ make a very nice and well spelled review of the product you sell, now you︀ can fool tons of new clients and make money on them, in this case Panamalaw︁ can rip people off they will enter into the trap like insects fly into the︂ burning lamp.

Ohh, I forgot I'm registered just now, this makes me according to Panama︃ SCAM also not to be a reliable source... lol - thank you for all the︄ information on this and the other two forums, it safed me from spending money on︅ nothing.
 
First of all we dissociate our self from this lies, accusing and false information this‌ Guatemala MAF is publishing, what they have found to be a SCAM in their opinion‍ is nothing others than untrue information.

However, the statement they made about the FSC is⁠ correct in that wording that some of the Agency services on the BVI have lead⁤ their attention to an article and maybe some wording on our website which could have⁣ lead to a confusion about who is registering the companies in the BVI, from a⁢ sales perspective it is correct what we wrote in the articles in questions, however, it︀ is obvious that due to our location to be in Cyprus that we are using︁ only certified agency services and lawyers in the jurisdictions where CCLOGIC Ltd isn't physical represented.︂ That the FSC is that naive and take it the way they did is up︃ to them, as mentioned in this post some companies and people really need to learn︄ the meaning of the English word SCAM and FRAUD.

Now, in regards to the forum︅ posters here, we have been checking the different IP's and even if the Guatemala Company︆ try to put us in the bad spotlight then we can confirm that none of︇ the posts made here are from any staff member of CCLOGIC Ltd and therefore we︈ have no responsibility or can be held responsible for what community members post, we moderate︉ from time to time spammed advertisement and threads which are not doubtful, if companies which︊ have been put into disrepute on our forum without hard prove or evidence of any︋ SCAM, FRAUD or false statements then we are going to remove such threads and posts︌ which is again obvious since the CCLOGIC Forum is here to provide true and informative︍ information, driven by the community and not by CCLOGIC Ltd itself, to support pre sales︎ questions or questions in general we have created the special forums here.

Now to the️ defamation activity of CCLOGIC Ltd from this Guatemala MAF company, in our opinion the website‌ they put up to publish these lies and false information is 100% mend as "doorway page" to swift potential clients interesting in the professional services of CCLOGIC Ltd into the‍ claws of these gangsters. They have been court by many victims as we see from⁠ several forum posts and publications around the Internet, which for a SCAM ARTIST is the⁤ worst what can happened, people do read forums, they do read blogs as well press⁣ releases, so publications like the one about PanamaLaw.org AKA Panamalegal are not very welcome to⁢ them and will hopefully have the effect they are mend to have, to shut down︀ this company or at least warn as many innocent people from being scammed.

One of︁ the reason for why we don't take this thread off or maybe go more in︂ the offensive to protect our name and reputation which is one of the best out︃ there (We hear this daily from clients which successfully have made use of our services)︄ is that our goal with this forum is to provide as accurate information as well︅ to be a platform which has the head and the power to deliver relevant information︆ in the business / industry we are into. What we see and what many of︇ the professionals see are simply false information out there where the information is wrangled in︈ a way people like to hear it, why?, it makes new clients, we are not︉ into this and again we want to distinct our self from the vast crowd and︊ proof that it is possible to run a honest and reliable business on the Internet︋ and to be a place people trust. Actually from their statements on the mentioned site,︌ we see that it is exactly what they would like us as well as the︍ two other forums to do, let's see what they advice people not to do:

Now if they were️ clean and are not what so many people say they are, then they would make‌ a public statement similar to this one, which would prove their inosence, however, they don't.‍
We encourage everyone to make their own decision, make use of the plenty information available⁠ here at the CCLOGIC Ltd forum as well on the linked forums that lead to⁤ more information about this topic.

On behalf of the entire CCLOGIC Ltd staff I would⁣ like to thank you for reading and your support, we hope you enjoy our services⁢ and look forward for your continued support.
 
For a company like panamalegal.org which is engaged in fraud for more than 210 million‌ USD they are very aggresive slandering a trusted and reliable company. They are behaving like‍ rats do, when you put them up the corner they will bait you. I hope⁠ they will be brought to court for their activities.
 
I've been went to the sites and read the posts from both sides. The bottom‌ line is these guys have an agenda to bring down CCLOGIC. It doesn't matter what‍ anyone says, they won't change their minds. I for one won't give them the time⁠ of day. No matter what you say they will turn it around or just lie.⁤ In my humble opinion, It would be better to ignore them. Then they will have⁣ no fuel for the fire of bustin on CCLOGIC chops. We have better things to⁢ do than let these bullies get to us.

Lets prove them wrong, but not on︀ their terms or in their back yard.
 
Im also a victim of this scam, that said I got over it and learned‌ lesson!

I'm new to CCLOGIC and don't need to read or listen to any negative‍ comments about CCLOGIC or any other offshore agency service I'm involved in. It's each individuals⁠ responsibility to research and do there due diligence before they get involved with any business⁤ ( I failed to do so the first time), program product or entity. In doing⁣ so, one will usually find both negative and on occasion some positive input. One company⁢ I checked out before buying their product impressed me as the customer support responded to︀ the feedback in a very professional and courteous manner.

Point is, CCLOGIC is too new,︁ and will receive several reviews from several entities. Some will praise while others will slander.︂ If one were to research out those sources, odds are that other companies will sabotage︃ or slander competitors out of fear. It's known as corporate espionage.

We could focus on︄ the negative, which is a total waste of energy that only prevents us from achieving︅ our goals. I would rather focus on the positive, move forward, build relationships in business︆ in a professional manner, and help everyone I can to obtain their success in business.︇

At the end of the day it is up the individual and their opinion if︈ they believe the information posted in this thread as well on other forums or not.︉
 
For them which are still in doubt of this scam operation Panamalegal aka Panamalaw.org, I‌ couldn't outline it much better, read: Grandpa's Letter - PANAMA LAW FIRM – HONEYPOT OR‍ SCAM?
 
You got to the point in the below thread, taken from TG, keep the communication‌ here is much better. This is proving how they behave on the Internet and how‍ misleading all their information is, they got caught and want to hide it to be⁠ able to scam more people and take out the competition. Actually it is what the⁤ guy here say Grandpa's Letter - PANAMA LAW FIRM – HONEYPOT OR SCAM?

Someone should⁣ put a warrant on those maniacs head.
 
Did anyone noticed from the thread on TG that this is a cheap TROLL they‌ hired to slander CCLOGIC ?

They are following a guideline published on the respective forums‍ on how to batching on companies and competitors, it was a PDF released for not⁠ so long ago. What also is interesting is that in is widely known that if⁤ you are in a competive niche which is almost impossible to rank for in a⁣ good position then you will have to expect your competition to be aggressive, this is⁢ also described in many e-books I read about SEO.

Now, everything seems to fit into︀ the puzzle, PanamaLaw aka Panamalegal.org scam has been caught by hundreds of Internet users to︁ be a scam, now what would one do in a attempt to make up with︂ this, it is very simple attack a competitor!

There are always 2 opinions on a︃ case like the one we see here, and different people will treat what they read︄ different.

1. People might think that the guy who continues to argue and use sensible︅ arguments might come off as a "smart a*s" or something and they might think the︆ guy who doesn't seem to care is funny.

2. If you're among more intellectual and︇ mature people, the guy who's stubborn will seem immature and stupid and after a while︈ people will just ignore him.

Best advice ignore them or hire army of troll's to︉ defend your reputation, which would put you on the same level as they are, to︊ win this game you have to be more unique.
 
If that bastards should come to Cyprus due to your invitation - lol - you‌ should really team up with the guys here, they may be able to help to‍ bring them to court for Defamation.

Media Law & Defamation - Specialist Law Team |⁠ Doughty Street Chambers

I little investigation on this scam and crocks shows some nice information⁤ which I'm preparing right now, you will be surprised to see what I have found,⁣ have made screens of everything will be published as well...

Best of luck to all,⁢ btw. has anyone found hte popcorn and beer, this is almost better than [video=youtube;NG3-GlvKPcg]
 
Thats exactly what it its, don't fall‍ into this trap it is a very cheap way to slander a company, you can⁠ hire such trolls in India, Philippines and even in the US, cost nothing to get⁤ one aboard, the organizations offering such trolls are even ordering them as the following:
Happy Troll

Bitching Troll

Aggressive Troll

Promotional Troll

How low can Panamalegal.org aka Panama SCAM go⁣ to hire a Troll to sort things out, see what happened, the winner is CCLOGIC⁢ they are a legit company and Panamalegal is just a SCAM and a big one︀ of it kind.

We guaranty for you to everyone we get in touch with, without︁ any doubts awesome services you guys offer.
 
Panamalegal.org aka Panamalaw - biggest scam this centuryWe need to update this particular thread‌ frequently, this will certainly guarantee that each and every audience that is funneled into this‍ thread through the slandering campaign of this chimps will have the most recent information, it⁠ can likewise get of an fascinating perspective to see how the Internet can or possibly⁤ can't be employed to distribute false / fake information and allow even authority websites such⁣ as Google, Yahoo as well as the large community s believe a story is true.⁢ In fact the actual interesting element here's who will have enjoy the traffic all of︀ this generates, it also has a curiosity to see if it may go so far︁ that the various medias get their attention on this kind of stories as well it︂ may be used in a educative way to observe how much influence a Cyber War︃ on the Internet may harm a company.Don't flame me regarding not to be a journalist,︄ I'm definitely not, I've much better activities to do however personally find this fascinating the︅ way this particular case has developed. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong in︆ parts of the below 🙂I'll begin with the initial thread these people started but prior︇ to that we need to have the terms in place:Slandering = Panamalaw Scam aka︈ Panamalegal ScamChimps = Panamalaw Scam aka Panamalegal Scamdesciples = The no brainers and︉ the other trolls following up on the chimps thread.okay, lets begin! now while we︊ are all on the same page we shall start with this one:Panama Legal is︋ a HUGE SCAM OPERATOR!This is when everything get started, a former customer of the︌ chimps, is actually complaining about them, this takes it's course to a major SCAM discovered︍ by lots of people all across the globe, how should we know about these people︎ won't be the same users? Unfortunately we cannot, but since we have a tiny believing️ in the authority websites on the Internet (not the probably none regulated websites) then the‌ Admin's on a Forum or even weblog will have the individuals IP, they should be‍ able to see if it's the same IP or not and most often additionally when⁠ they are Proxy addresses as well as exactly where they're originating from.Following the below thread⁤ brings up an additional discussion board (Make sure you look at the dates of every⁣ poster we get to this later)Username: panamaPassword: fightback2010Panama ForumHere we now have an⁢ additional massive number of people complaining about the Chimps, once again look at the date︀ when they're posting, once more the actual Forum moderators / Admins can easily check if︁ all the complains you'll find are from the identical IP.following, we will go to the︂ invalid1c//.php thread as well as the talkgold.com thread, the Admins here and also at talkgold︃ will certainly observe that the various users participating in the threads will be from different︄ IP'sAt this point, no Admin nor blog Admin allows the release of any IP addresses︅ because of the privacy of their users however what some do would be to confirm︆ if all postings are made up by one person or different individuals, it is up︇ to you! if you will believe the Admin's, For me I'm going to believe the︈ trustworthy discussion boards who have a substantial organization behind them, talking here about s such︉ as Web Hosting Talk, SCAM.COM and some others.Now, how come the dates are of any︊ kind of interest? Quite simple, what you should notice would be that the many threads︋ and posts on all of the s around tend to be build prior to the︌ thread came to the actual CCLOGIC Forum, honestly, I'm not here in order to defend︍ or guard them nevertheless in contrast they're legit and the Chimps aren't therefore I'm here︎ to help others to make the proper decision rather than to get enrolled in any️ scam from the Chimps! And? I get to it right now! -second claim from‌ the Chimps:

Do you read me, they︀ are saying that CCLOGIC is only 5 months old, if the statement is true what︁ interest might they have to slander a company before they were even born?Numerous of us︂ understand that they already been around in 2008, the way back machine previously mentioned proves︃ absolutely nothing, it's buggy and by trying to key in Sony, hp or even some︄ of the other fortune 500 companies then them all have lacking data for 2009, however︅ ignore this right now.Next claim:

Check this picture from the Chimps website:View attachment 78In my thoughts and opinions︋ this isn't a SCAM along with the different other claims aren't, it's a easy solution︌ to restrict the number of visitors while focusing on the Internet business along with their︍ online community. I personally have had numerous chats with them (CCLOGIC), always helpful.the second reason︎ behind why I don't believe it to be a scam is actually that they have️ published their address, everyone is able to go to Cyprus and check if they are‌ based at this particular address, lastly they proposed the chimps to meet at CCLOGICs address.‍

What next,Take a look at⁢ this

link, read simply the first︁ couple of lines, they are using the same name and same article as they used︂ for the CCLOGIC on the doubful website scamradar.com, more here.Take a look at the following︃ picturesView attachment 76View attachment 77 pictures, it is precisely the exact same slandering︄ sentence as the things they just published about CCLOGIC along with bogus names, fake statements,︅ they have modified it a little but they could also have just copied it, see︆ the article refered to at SCAM.COM about the chimps: Mortgage Fraud Surge Investigation Nets More︇ Than 100 Individuals Throughout Middle Florida | Reuters - now who will you believe? I'm︈ for sure will not trust the Chimps!! CCLOGIC turned down the allegations in a professional︉ manner.






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Thank you jpay for the in depth analysis, we appreciate your support.

It is difficult‌ to do anything else than encourage anyone with concerns about our company to address them‍ directly to us either here in the thread, or the respective forums or through our⁠ support, we will want to have in mind that Panamalegal.org Panamalaw.org etc. are professional scammers⁤ and fraudsters, they will use every illegal way to fight their criminal activities which should⁣ by now be obvious isn't to operate a law firm, they are even not lawyers⁢ if I'm wrong in this statement than it would put the legit law firms in︀ Guatemala on a very low level.
 
Admin, you should separate this thread so that everyone quickly is able to see that‌ this slandering campaign is about the defamation of CCLOGIC, make a link from the new‍ thread to this one..

Others, everyone who doubt the professional services of CCLOGIC, contact them,⁠ they are fast in replies, I can only say we have been satisfied in fullest⁤ with their services!

Check the posters slandering! they are new registered no one else is⁣ posting anything about CCLOGIC... be careful with what you believe!!! posters which slander other companies⁢ or services should have a very good forum reputation... no one is giving n00b's or︀ new registered posters any value of the information posted, if so they are noobs too.︁
 
Thank you for your inputs, we did so, the new thread is located here: /forum/f61/panama-legal-scam-cclogic-message-customers-users-forum-11713/‌
 
Sorry that I missed to Chew the fat here slandering cclogic who is clean as‌ a whistle makes me sick and is annoying while they have done that much for‍ me and my partners.

I support this company 100%, anyone who needs references, please PM⁠ me!
 
check out these blatant liars, they are scum backs at the worst's these so called‌ Lawyers don't even bothers about the truth or lies. On the website of panamalaw.org they‍ wrote:View attachment 80The truth is, the Seychelles have so far not signed a⁠ single agreement with any country nor any TIEAsFor a law firm which have no scruples⁤ about writing this it is most advisable to stay away or run.



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wow, Im sorry I missed this thread what a wealth of information here about these‌ scoundrels - they are scammers, slanderes and bad company for anyone.
 
Also interesting to see is that the horror stories never end, just saw this story‌ on another forum.

Interesting
 
I read the page panamalaw.org...I am lawyer at Guatemala City and there are some things‌ you should be aware of when your are trying to invest in Guatemala. For example,‍ they demand you to wire them 2,5k before meeting you, this is not the way⁠ to work. In fact, every time I know a "client" I tell him/her to come⁤ to my office first, so he/she feels secure that I do have an office, that⁣ they are able to find me by only giving the taxi driver the address. I⁢ offer my clients always 2 options: either I pick him/her up at the airport (which︀ I do not like very much) or they can take the shuttle to the Hotel︁ and then they can take a taxi to my office. I let them know about︂ the whole process and answer them all the questions they want to do. My hourly︃ fee is then charge after the meeting is over. If they decide to work with︄ me the first payment is deducted from the whole deal, since I do not want︅ to be known as a "rober" or "burglar" or something like that. That is the︆ way to do bussiness. So if any of you are interested please do not hesitate︇ to call me.
 
So I can come to Guatemala and visit your office and get answers to my‌ questions if I want? Will you require that I buy your services in order to‍ schedule an appoitment?
 
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