Euro Pacific bank is a scam

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I hope PS could at least invite some of the opt in customers to this‌ group as quite a big number of people are just in darkness and do not‍ know how bad our situation is at the moment.

More time we waste less chance⁠ we have get nothing back, no matter do we talk about Gold, Silver or just⁤ cash.

Sending emails to receiver, Qenta, OCIF is just waste of time. They will not⁣ reply.
 
Actually, the️ deal can still be terminated. The agreement says it can be canceled any time‌ before the Closing Date , and guess what? "Closing" isn’t the same as "initial closing".‍ Full Closing only happens when all assets and liabilities are transferred , including things like⁠ uncleared cash as "Closing" definition states. Since that hasn’t happened yet (and Section 2.3 says⁤ there’s no deadline for that), the final Closing never took place. So yeah… legally, the⁣ agreement is still terminable. Whoever says otherwise didn’t read the definitions properly.
 
What does uncleared cash mean?
Is that the aprox. 19 million usd Qenta is︀ in possesion of?
 
Thank you.
That was also what i thought.

And actually why I think‌ there is a chance for cash only opt-ins to change status to opt-outs because the‍ reciever is holding the opt-ins’ cash.
 
Hope so but Im affraid what⁠ are his intentions as he clearly shows he doesnt want to take care of opt⁤ ins and now when Qenta is communicating Im so fucking scared he will want to⁣ push those 30 mlns to them....
 
That would be making a bigger mess of things.
Qenta want to terminate⁠ the deal and send back the funds of opt-ins.
I’m sure the uncleared 30 million⁤ usd that belings to opt-ins will stay in his possesion.
He wants all the assets⁣ liquidated into USD for easier distribution.
 
Dear Mr.︅ Schiff, thank you very much for your time and kind explanation. Hope we can all︆ work together in this process and can take the first steps towards our common goal︇ as soon as possible.
 
Yeah, that easier distribution of his⁤ due to selling everything to USD costed me a common new car at current USD⁣ rates as I realised today. Im soo frustrated by all this.
 
Good news everyone. The Receiver and I are finally on the same page. He will‌ accept control of the silver. I have the list of all bank customers who own‍ silver and their exact holdings. I will take charge of making sure its returned to⁠ customers. There are just over 200 customers. I will arrange for individual accounts to be⁤ created for each customer. Each customer will then receive an email to open a new⁣ account. Once the customer is onboarded the silver can be credited to their new account.⁢ At that point its up to the customer. He an either sell the silver and︀ have the cash wired to his bank account, or continue to hold it in their︁ account. Customers can even buy more if they want. The gold is harder as Qenta︂ has custody of that, but I am working on it. The same is true for︃ the cash and mutual funds Qenta still has control of. But at least we are︄ moving in the right direction.
 
Dear Mr. Schiff, thank you︅ very much for your constant and kind support, let´s hope for the best for all︆ customers. Warmest Regards.
 
Thank you Peter. I appreciate︅ all the work you are doing to help customers. I hope you are able to︆ convince OCFI and the Receiver to take control of Opt-in customer assets.

When I have︇ time this weekend I plan to email OCFI and the Receiver asking them to reconsider︈ their decision to abandon Opt-In customers. OCFI and the Receiver have been dealing with Qenta︉ and must know by now that Qenta are a bunch dishonest shady crooks given their︊ behaviour and lack of communication prior to their request to terminate the purchase agreement. If︋ this was not clear to OCFI and the Receiver, it should be now given their︌ attempt to steal the asset appreciation worth tens of millions of dollars, unjustly enriching Qenta.︍ How can they not see this?
 
God bless you Peter, and︅ the Receiver, Mr Lugo Mender. This is an extremely positive development - thanks to each︆ of you for whatever compromises you had to make to be able to come to︇ this arrangement, and here’s hoping this is the start of even more collaborative working in︈ the interests of customers.

Just to give Mr Lugo Mender some credit too, for his︉ response to Qenta - while there are aspects of that initial response that many on︊ here have taken issue with, credit to him for responding so quickly and emphatically turning︋ down Qenta’s terms, sending de Jong running away with his tail between his legs. Nice︌ try, Brent.
 
I think the receiver is coming around. He is letting me work on︂ the silver and once I recover the gold I can work on that too.
 
I will do my best to be diplomatic with the Receiver and OCFI‍ in my email. I'll kindly ask them to collaborate with you in relation to the⁠ Qenta situation. I'm so glad you were able to convince the Receiver regarding the Silver.⁤ I hopefully you are correct and the Receiver starts listening and working with you to⁣ protect customers.
 
The receiver sent Qenta a⁠ letter. I saw a copy of that letter. But he has since come around and⁤ seems to be on the same page as me . We get the assets back⁣ from Qenta and distribute them clients at current marker value, not Sept. 2022 prices.
 
Thank you so much for your⁤ help, I really appreciate it!

And thanks to the Receiver for collaborating with you!
 
You are️ the one who is wrong. Read the definition of "initially closing" It is continent on‌ :

"all Regulatory Approvals having been obtained and remaining in full force and effect, an‍ initial Closing shall take place"

Qenta has been telling Opt. In customers for year, that⁠ while assets where transferred to it, the customer liabilities had not, as they were still⁤ waiting for OCIF to approve the migration process. As a result the assets remain in⁣ the account of the bank under the administration of the receiver. In one such email⁢ send last last year, two years after having received passion of gold, Qenta wrote the︀ following to an Opt. in customer: “Rest assured that all EPB assets continue to be︁ held safely in EPB’s accounts. This is currently managed by the receiver, until the liquidation︂ and migration processes are allowed to commence.” There was no initial closing and their was︃ no closing. Qenta is stated OCIF failure to approve the migration as one of it's︄ reasons for terminating the Purchase and Assumption Agreement. So if OCIF admits regulatory approval was︅ never obtain, and initial closing never took place. Qenta can't now change its mind and︆ admit otherwise. Even if it did, it would also have to admit to having all︇ the customer liabilities. But my argument is correct.
 
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