Euro Pacific bank is a scam
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I don't think sharing any contact details over something like this is good idea. The innocent could get scammed so easily.
Dear Mr. Everson, you´re right, scams (specially online) are, nowadays very common. We have to be respectful and careful. Do you think there´s a way to let people that are in our situation, know of the situation we are facing and have our rights been respected? Just as an example, I got to know this community, because I started searching for news on the liquidation process, as I felt I was in a vaccum, alone. Appreciate in advance︀ your time.
Good question. That would be down to Peter to investigate if he has the contact details of customers affected. He︀ can maybe email all customers with a link to a gofundme page for legal costs.︁ But I would not know the best way to do it really.
Thank you very much. Your comments give light as to what we can do to sinchonize our efforts. I didn´t even realized we are 1702 customers, who opted in. Hope Mr. Schiff can help us get together to move in the same direction, as I pressume we all have the same goal.︀ All the best, Mr. Everson.
I think time is of the essence.
Now we have to deal with Qenta and the Receiver, as he is washing his hands (I am surprised he is allowed). Individual actions will be expensive, uncoordinated and ineffective. We must find a way of putting together a group and get legal representation. In my opinion, the person who is in a better position to kick the ball rolling is Mr. Schiff. As someone said, the Bank has all our contact details.
While that happens, I will write to Qenta rejecting any liquidation of my assets. I will also write to Wigberto and the OCIF, on breach︀ of fiduciary duties and professional negligence. I am concerned that I have never gotten any︁ reply to any previous communication attempts, so I wonder even if I am in the︂ list. We must put pressure on the Receiver, as he may be personally liable for︃ negligence and may be insured, which may help solve things.
Now we have to deal with Qenta and the Receiver, as he is washing his hands (I am surprised he is allowed). Individual actions will be expensive, uncoordinated and ineffective. We must find a way of putting together a group and get legal representation. In my opinion, the person who is in a better position to kick the ball rolling is Mr. Schiff. As someone said, the Bank has all our contact details.
While that happens, I will write to Qenta rejecting any liquidation of my assets. I will also write to Wigberto and the OCIF, on breach︀ of fiduciary duties and professional negligence. I am concerned that I have never gotten any︁ reply to any previous communication attempts, so I wonder even if I am in the︂ list. We must put pressure on the Receiver, as he may be personally liable for︃ negligence and may be insured, which may help solve things.
The 24 million includes all the gold and sliver at Sept. 30th 2022 prices. Both metals have about doubled in price since than. So it's closer to $50 million now. The gold, about $40 million worth was transferred out of Silver Bullion by Qenta. But they left the silver︀ there. So Silver Bullion, at my request, offered to transfer control bank to the bank,︁ on the condition that the receiver accepts it. So far he has not even acknowledged︂ their offer.
The company that I︇ want to handle storage of the metal and allocation to customers is not my company.︈ But I know the owners well, and its highly reputable in the industry. I'm confident︉ all customers will have full access to that silver in about 30 days from the︊ receiver agreeing to take it back. The gold is harder as Qenta moved it. But︋ with the receivers help it will be much easier to get it back. So I︌ agree customers should join my efforts to convince the receiver to represent all customers and︍ maximize the value of all assets, including all cash, metals, and securities that were transferred︎ to Qenta based on a Purchase and Assumption Agreement that was cancelled before any purchases️ or assumptions actually closed.
The 24 million includes all the gold and sliver at Sept. 30th 2022 prices. Both metals have about doubled in price since than. So it's closer to $50 million now. The gold, about $40 million worth was transferred out of Silver Bullion by Qenta. But they left the silver︀ there. So Silver Bullion, at my request, offered to transfer control bank to the bank,︁ on the condition that the receiver accepts it. So far he has not even acknowledged︂ their offer.
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That's so ridiculously, how are we going to deal with Qenta, we have nothing to do with them. Besides Qenta has terminated the agreement.
OCIF must tell the Receiver to take control of those assets and find a way to return them to their rightful owners.
If Qenta wants to get paid for their expenses, they have to wait until every customer has received their assets.
OCIF must tell the Receiver to take control of those assets and find a way to return them to their rightful owners.
If Qenta wants to get paid for their expenses, they have to wait until every customer has received their assets.
How do you know what the receiver told Qenta?
The receiver never said that Opt ins could get anything from Qenta. There's no way they could without an agreement between the receiver, Qenta and OCIF.
The receiver never said that Opt ins could get anything from Qenta. There's no way they could without an agreement between the receiver, Qenta and OCIF.
Surprisingly, most OPT‑IN clients in this forum still seem to live in “la‑la land”.
The deal OPT‑IN clients accepted by not opting out: https://9fraud.com/purchase-and-assumption-agreement-for-euro-pacific-bank-assets-with-qenta-inc/
Sections 2.2 and 2.2(d): At the initial closing (30 September 2022) OPT‑IN clients entered into a custodial relationship with Qenta, AND Qenta assumed liability toward those clients (SCHIFF IS WRONG if stating anything else. It is here. Black on white). Of course, this proceeded only after receiving “regulatory approval” from OCIF,without it the deal would not have been approved and the assets would never have been transferred to Qenta.
Note that there is NO deadline for when the “additional closing” (Section 2.3) must occur.
Look at the definition of “Closing Date” (p. 2): it refers to︀ the initial closing. Then read Section 6.1,terminating this deal CANNOT happen now, three years later.︁
REALITY FOR OPT‑IN CLIENTS:
The receiver is 100 % within his legal rights not to︂ interfere in this “fantastic” deal Peter Einstein Schiff made with Qenta (a company that likes︃ to change its name every other year and whose subsidiaries are in bankruptcy). OPT-IN CLIENTS:︄ FORGET ABOUT THE RECEIVER.
The Qenta team is smart. After three years not a single︅ customer has sued anyone; instead, they spend their time complaining in online forums. Qenta is︆ probably counting on this to continue and will then charge an additional USD 1 million︇ per month for the assets they are now holding. Qenta strategy: Pretend to want to︈ send the money back, but they are counting on keeping these assets!
There is new︉ management at OCIF. The receiver is locally PR based, and no one really knows where︊ in the world Qenta is based. Who do you think OCIF will listen to? Also:︋ Of course, the Receiver already cleared with OCIF before answering Qenta this week.
What is︌ not public knowledge is Peter´s true involvement with Qenta. He certinaly gets forwarded confidential letters︍ from them to the Receiver and he certainly (as he says here) speaks frequently to︎ Brent de Jong about other topics than EPB.
The deal OPT‑IN clients accepted by not opting out: https://9fraud.com/purchase-and-assumption-agreement-for-euro-pacific-bank-assets-with-qenta-inc/
Sections 2.2 and 2.2(d): At the initial closing (30 September 2022) OPT‑IN clients entered into a custodial relationship with Qenta, AND Qenta assumed liability toward those clients (SCHIFF IS WRONG if stating anything else. It is here. Black on white). Of course, this proceeded only after receiving “regulatory approval” from OCIF,without it the deal would not have been approved and the assets would never have been transferred to Qenta.
Note that there is NO deadline for when the “additional closing” (Section 2.3) must occur.
Look at the definition of “Closing Date” (p. 2): it refers to︀ the initial closing. Then read Section 6.1,terminating this deal CANNOT happen now, three years later.︁
REALITY FOR OPT‑IN CLIENTS:
The receiver is 100 % within his legal rights not to︂ interfere in this “fantastic” deal Peter Einstein Schiff made with Qenta (a company that likes︃ to change its name every other year and whose subsidiaries are in bankruptcy). OPT-IN CLIENTS:︄ FORGET ABOUT THE RECEIVER.
The Qenta team is smart. After three years not a single︅ customer has sued anyone; instead, they spend their time complaining in online forums. Qenta is︆ probably counting on this to continue and will then charge an additional USD 1 million︇ per month for the assets they are now holding. Qenta strategy: Pretend to want to︈ send the money back, but they are counting on keeping these assets!
There is new︉ management at OCIF. The receiver is locally PR based, and no one really knows where︊ in the world Qenta is based. Who do you think OCIF will listen to? Also:︋ Of course, the Receiver already cleared with OCIF before answering Qenta this week.
What is︌ not public knowledge is Peter´s true involvement with Qenta. He certinaly gets forwarded confidential letters︍ from them to the Receiver and he certainly (as he says here) speaks frequently to︎ Brent de Jong about other topics than EPB.
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