Dystopian future for the unvaccinated odds

[KJK]

This is probably the worst thing in all this madness⁢ - the unpredictability. In the past if you wanted to fly, you bought a ticket︀ and most likely you arrived to your destination. The exception could've been perhaps a crazy︁ unexpected 2-hour traffic jam on the way to the airport...

However now EVERYTHING is unexpected︂. You must check rules to leave, rules set by the airline, rules set by︃ country A, rules set by transit country B, rules set by country C, rules set︄ by a local government or a certain city. If you want to make a trip︅ with two or three legs, the probability of you arriving without any problems and any︆ delays to do business or to go on vacation decreases drastically.

And the worst thing︇ is that even if you do everything right, you are not guaranteed to be cleared.︈ Because the rules can change and do change.

I totally remember that Montenegro (in the︉ summer of 2021) was one of the most relaxed and free countries in Europe and︊ in the world. You could arrive totally free, no vaccination required, no PCR test︋ required, no arrival form required, no questions asked. Just show your passport and you're free︌ to go. Not a lot of people wearing masks, noone annoying you. Now it is︍ the exact opposite and crazy restrictions within the span of a few days. Well good︎ luck, I thought 25 % of your GDP comes from tourism. Perhaps you already found️ some better activities, dear Montenegro.

Similar crazy changes were also in Romania, Netherlands... There are‌ some countries going the other way and cancelling restrictions, like Mexico and El Salvador. Now‍ maybe Spain or at least part of Spain? That's nice but they are still more⁠ the exception than the rule.

 

[JamesDonkey]

Well, they wellcome‍ tourists in summer, and now it's winter there.

On the other hand, the worse -⁠ the better, because at some point it'll explode badly.

Also, the vaccine passports are the⁤ two-edged sword because it hurts vaccinated too: it requires that the vaccinated take jabs every⁣ 6 months in order to remain vaccinated, thus harming their immune systems and little by⁢ little making them unhappy. It's not a long term solution.

 

[myshufflemix]

The Germans who are against this nightmare of vaxxing, are now moving to Paraguay, to‌ avoid vaccination and the insanely harsh requirements for the unvaccinated.

 

[daxbr]

That door has closed already. Only citizens and existing residents can enter without a proof⁠ of covid vaccination.

 

[Golden Fleece]

Yes, I recently watched an interview of a doctor⁤ who stated that the damage from the vaccines is likely cumulative, which is why we⁣ have seen a wave of deaths from the booster shots -- including some athletes.

 

[boomy]

maybe they will cancel it for now, maybe it will⁤ take a few more months before all is as it was before COVID-19 - however,⁣ I believe in short time we will have a new but similar situation.

 

[369]

Thats sucks........hopefully they will re open it‍ for a timeframe in summer

 

[aage]

How does it look today, one month passed, where are we with DysTopia - all‌ good - now it's PutinTopia?

 

[uplana]

lot's of talk, still we‍ are all here and looking into ww3 rather than COVID19

 

[Jerry1911]

I think they will restart‍ the Covid bulls**t in fall this year, at least in Europe. But let's hope I'm⁠ wrong

 

[erni]

this thread is still up, impressivesmi(&%

 

[polonieth]

For now it's fine. But it's going to be a terrible year for the jabbed.‌ Especially the triple and quadruple. More likely to get covid, more likely to get sick.‍ Welcome to the world of VAIDS. It will be impossible to hide. So that might⁠ make it hard to bring back restrictions seen as though it's the vaccinated at more⁤ risk.

Of course, all predictable. Anyone with a few functioning brain cells avoided it. You⁣ can find the triple jabbed over on the Russian invasion thread, trying to tell us⁢ Ukraine are winning .

 

[Jerry1911]

Yeah, I noticed that too. I'm from⁠ a country which somewhat recently joined the EU. Whoever shilled for the EU back then⁤ now got the vaccine, supports Ukraine and is looking forward to the introduction of the⁣ Euro (during inflation) 🙄

Our local "experts" are already saying how there will be a massive⁢ outbreak in fall as if they have a crystal ball... Makes you think.

 

[JackAlabama]

It was rather difficult to avoid︀ it and required relocation in many cases (in my case at least and many Ive︁ met).

 

[Golden Fleece]

Not really. I am not‍ vaccinated, I oppose the COVID vaccines, and I know the science regarding vaccines, masks, viruses,⁠ and natural cures.

And I also know that Ukraine is winning, because it is always⁤ much easier to win a defensive war -- especially when you have troop morale on⁣ your side. Once Ukraine receives first tier Western weapons systems (versus old Soviet and second⁢ tier technology), which are just beginning to arrive, Russia has no hope of achieving its︀ main objectives for the war (although it may achieve some lessor goals). What good are︁ ships and tanks when they can be destroyed by cheap missiles and drones?

If Russia's︂ goal was truly to achieve greater security against alleged NATO encroachment, which is what Russia︃ claimed, then it has already lost that objective as well, once Finland and Sweden join︄ NATO. That would never have happened, but for the war. There is no doubt at︅ all that Putin now regrets his actions.

 

[polonieth]

Which country/circumstances required‍ relocation? I can't think of many.

I agree it was difficult, the pressure was high⁠ but all it took was having the courage of your convictions.

I don't have an⁤ employer to mandate it. But even then I know I wouldn't have taken it. Risk⁣ death to keep your job?

I don't understand why most people never asked what the⁢ social contract was. If I take this jab, how long do I keep my job︀ for? Do I get 10 years guaranteed? Do I get a pay rise?

Instead, half︁ the companies that mandated it. Have now removed the mandate.

 

[JohnnyDoe]

Ok Ukraine︃ is winning if that makes you happy but that’s OT in a thread on vaccines︄

 

[Jerry1911]

Because they are dumb low IQ cattle.

 

[polonieth]

Ah I'd have put money on jabbed.

Western weapons that they can't use properly and break︃ easily?

The West are sending absolute junk. Those Howitzers? They use titanium so break quickly︄ and need repairing which requires both parts and training.

Even the NLAW which is pretty︅ good as it can at least be fired from an enclosed space unlike the javelin︆ are past their sell by date so are failing miserably.

All more weapons do is︇ lead to needless death of Ukrainian men. The smart ones are surrendering, as they realise︈ they have no Central command.

The West don't give a s**t about Ukrainians. Proxy war.︉

 

[Golden Fleece]

Ask yourself who it was that first raised‍ the OT issue (hint: see post #92).

Then ask yourself why you are complaining to⁠ me, rather than to the first person who went OT.

Then ask yourself why it⁤ is that you can never comport yourself in a fair and even-handed manner.
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The funny part is that even if everything you say︅ is true, those weapons are still far superior to Russian weapons. For example, the Russian︆ tanks have serious design flaws that the West has known about for more than a︇ decade, yet the Russians never bothered to fix those problems. Now Russian soldiers pay the︈ price.

The Russians are abandoning so many weapons that the Ukrainians are fixing and redeploying︉ them.

Meanwhile, Finland just today announced a fast-track application to join NATO. Just what Putin︊ wanted. lol
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