uplana said:
Does that mean that Proton VPN is now secure against hackers, governments, and others who stick their noses into private people's internet activity?
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I know they've been discussed here on OCT many times before, and some of our most well-known members believe that ProtonMail is as open as a book and cannot be trusted at all.
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@GPT said that I should write shorter texts. I agree, withou vanity. So, a long story short. The answer is absolutely no.
And before the long one and anything else, the cyber - digital safety can't be achieved by any VPN - be it even a perfect one.
Short answer elaborated. Historia, magistra vitae est.
Follow the money trail.
Proton has changed its structure from a company limited by shares to a foundation under Swiss jurisdiction. There is no efficient method to determine UBO in a foundation as the identification will end at the level of a foundation board members. This situation resembles the Crypto AG and Omnisec AG bearer shares. Pretty much self-explanatory.
Yes, as other participants stated, the Proton text is quite marketing oriented.
The Proton infrastructure is not in Switzerland, to say at least, but in countries that do not
nominaly and de iure respect privacy.
What's neutral in offering VPN for democracy in a countries that will have elections this year - who will pay the IP transit and IX peering? That has it's name in certain shady government business.
Key problem in any discussion are persons that do not actualy know the subject matter but are apologeticaly stating and defending something, creating religious wars.
VPN is not designed to protect the location and content but to connect dispersed network resources thru proper identification beside other requirements. Content encryption, authentication and other additional services - modules are the overlay.
Commercial VPN providers are not stating that your network device can access others and may be accessed by others due to network policies. Hence, end user's traffic - that may have a content and transit encryption - is secured to the private gateway network interface. From there, it's in cleartext form and is masqueraded to originate from public gateway network interface.
Short - the network traffic is always in a cleartext after decryption and before forwarding and masquerading to public gateway. That is a design principle. Thus, the server administrator can always surveil - and record - the traffic in real time.
There is no secure VPN provider as it's impossible due to design aspects. Only secure VPN is under end-user's control.
When anybody who is religiously loyal to a person, idea, deity, service or a product states something apologeticaly, doubt!
