Long term capital gains tax on stock market?

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A lot depends on your current country of residency and its tax rules. For example‌ if you lived in Spain and had a current portfolio of over 4m euros if‍ you tried to leave Spain to avoid capital gains tax in future you will be⁠ hit with Spain's 'Exit Taxation'. You will be taxed on unrealized gains in your stock⁤ portfolio at 23%. However if you move to another EU country you will only need⁣ to declare and be taxed on gains if you sell within 10 years or then⁢ move outside EU...lol. Still a long time to be watched by home country.

Best to︀ move now to a country with no capital gains if you intend to hold and︁ keep the stock portfolio without trading in and out of positions or put in an︂ offshore structure depending on how offshore structures are treated in your home country.
 
Martin... I've been reading your comments in many different threats &︄ topics, its nice you share all experience and knowledge with others.

I have been reading︅ so much that idk what to do, all this Proxy Residence, DUBAI residency w/bank account︆ and 0% tax strategy, USA LLC for investment strategies tax free for non-residents, Georgia TBC︇ account. Andorra 10% tax.

Perhaps you can give me some insides on my scenario below︈ ( THE plan still under development, not there yet.)

I'm thinking about moving to Spain︉ with family (coming from Mexico) (final goal for us is to get the Nationality after︊ the 2yrs period)

My general plan is to set up an offshore account in a︋ SAFE country focused on investment strategies and wealth management (DUBAI), I will be using this︌ account ONLY for Long term compound interest investments, Dividend based investments and Short term investing︍ ( ETFs / VWRL / REITs.. etc.. anything that generate passive income, looking at 8-10%︎ p/year) I will be declaring my accounts and all sources of income, as well as️ filling my taxes every year in Spain, paying taxes as per below:

-Under Spain Tax‌ Code a Resident has to pay 21% tax for income obtained from interest, investments or‍ dividends, when less than <EU$50k... I have no problem with paying this tax. (However the⁠ $50k represents ONLY 30% of the total passive generated income)
-The other 70% will stay⁤ invested (thus, is not income). In order to take advantage of the following tax code:⁣ under Spain Tax Code, taxes can be deferred on Dividends or Interest that are NOT⁢ liquidated and immediately put back into the principal, such a Compounded Interest Investments. Thus, there︀ are no taxes to be paid here (yet), until you actually take money from your︁ investment and put it in your bank. Meaning it can remain invested & compounding/growing without︂ paying taxes on it. Obviously I will be declaring my bank accounts and filing the︃ taxes on time every year and living a normal live under the rules.

1. Do︄ you think this scheme will work for this scenario?
2. Which strategy you consider best︅ for a long term investment 8-10% gains p/year. (compounding)? Withdrawing only $50k p/year
3. Based︆ on your experience and taking in consideration this scenario? Do you recommend any better strategy?︇ (taking into account that family is in the equation, paying 21% tax is OK for︈ me, NOT MORE than this%)

*Taking the Residency and Living in Dubai with Family to︉ enjoy the 0% taxes could be a possibility, but I rather leave this scenario as︊ the 2nd option, since Spain checks all the boxes (language, culture, live style, weather), and︋ if my strategy is validated, I would be paying 10k per year in taxes (minus︌ deductions, insurance, schooling, medicals etc. could be 7-8k per year) which I'm OK with that︍ amount.
*I will need an exit strategy, but that will be in the future for︎ whenever I want to liquidate my entire portfolio (once outside Spain), however, since we are️ a young family, we are talking about 20years from now (which means we can leave‌ the investment compounding for that time frame, withdrawing only 50k per year/paying only 21% on‍ taxes p/year while keeping the rest of the passive generated income as and addition to⁠ the principal to continue) ( I just read about the 'exit tax' in Spain)
*It scares me to read comments here like: "stay away from EU & Spain" "EU tax⁤ hell'.. It might be all true, but if you become wealthy with clean money in⁣ Mexico, believe me, you are better off in another part of the world, and if⁢ this works, living in Spain paying 10k in taxes per year sounds more like a︀ haven for me.

Really appreciate your inputs and recommendations and thanks again for sharing knowledge,︁ experiences and taking the time to read and write... truly remarkable.
 
If you appreciate the answer he gave you a LIKE would be in place 😉

I agree, if you want to sleep well and good,⁤ you have to relocate.
 
Yes. If you have a portfolio that generates income then your tax will only‍ ever be between 19% to 26% as of 2021 which is fair taxation.

If you can compound safely 8-10% a year⁣ and keep that discipline then thats a good strategy.

Keep in mind Spanish tax laws change like the︂ weather. 21% is only up to 50k. Then you got 50k-200k @ 23% and now︃ 200k+ @ 26% and who knows what over next years. Then unless you live in︄ Madrid (no wealth tax) wealth tax will start to bite as your money grows if︅ you live in Andalusia region especially.

The exit taxation rate could be︌ brutal in 20 years time. Especially in a country like Spain. But it is not︍ crazy with likelyhood most you will pay will be in 20's fingers crossed.

But to︎ be straight with you, you will have a good lifestyle in Spain with family if️ you earn 50k in investment income a year and pay 21% tax rate. You will‌ be living far better than most people if you can live somewhere cheap. You won't‍ get the same lifestyle or enjoyment living in Dubai and it will cost you far⁠ more as a family for everything.
 
Really appreciate your inputs.

Glad to hear that at least on paper︈ the 50k/21% strategy is valid and could work.

And Yes, Spain tick all the boxes︉ for us coming from Mex, taxes are similar (Mexico copy/paste whatever other countries do) however︊ Spain being a more develop country and a EU country has the means to f**k︋ you up while in Mex still ways to... navigate...

The end goal is to enjoy︌ life and family in a nice place, with good weather, travel the world, do your︍ hobbies and pay tax on what is fair (for me 21%) and not 40/50% of︎ all your hard earn money.
 
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