My lawyer is an old friend; he betrayed me!

[EliasIT]

Here is My Story​

As some of you may already know from reading my previous posts, I have had numerous issues with the Danish tax authorities (Skat). These problems have not diminished over the years, and I must admit that I am getting tired of it.

However, I have now reached the final case with Skat in Denmark and recently had the pleasure of attending a video meeting with one of their employees alongside my tax lawyer.

This is a new lawyer I am working with, specializing in criminal law within the tax field. This last case is now five years old, precisely one day away from reaching the statute of limitations! When the case began, I was represented by a lawyer I had known for nearly 15 years and had frequently used for various matters over the years. In other words, I considered him both a trusted friend and a competent attorney... or so I thought.

During our meeting yesterday, the tax authorities asked me a series of questions. Then, suddenly, they inquired about my relationship with my lawyer and accountant in this case. I responded that it had been excellent and reiterated what I have just written above.

At that moment, I noticed their expressions change, mine did too after what followed. They informed me that there was a "confidential note" on the case, in which my former lawyer had written that there had been significant difficulties in cooperation and that I was unwilling to collaborate. My current lawyer immediately stepped in, pointing out to the tax authorities that this note was classified and that I was apparently not supposed to know about it. I was in shock for about two minutes, unable to say anything.

I was stunned by 1. the existence of this confidential note, and 2. the fact that my current lawyer had not informed me about it.

When I confronted my current lawyer about this, he simply stated that he did not find it relevant!

In my view, this is absolutely relevant, and I now believe that my former lawyer may have completely sabotaged my case.

Can anyone provide qualified input on who is right in this situation and what possible steps I should take?

This is happening in Denmark, not the U.S., so legal action like suing someone is not as straightforward

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[JohnnyDoe]

As I continue to repeat, lawyers are not your friends!
They are an integral and essential part of the system, and you must use them only as a tool for handling technical matters. Once done, cordially discard them.

Never ever disclose to your lawyer any information you don't want a third party to access.

Lawyers will snitch and find every way to drain you of money, down to the last cent and beyond.

Forget about suing a lawyer: dog does not eat dog.

Unfortunately this situation is entirely your fault. Take it as a lesson for the future.

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[happyjohn]

You can try filing a complaint with some kind of appeals body; maybe it will help. Otherwise, I completely agree with @JohnnyDoe you have to learn from this.

Lawyers are like prostitutes; they drain you of money until you have nothing left.

 

[JohnnyDoe]

happyjohn said:
You can try filing a complaint with some kind of appeals body;
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If you do that, you risk (in addition to obtaining zero practical results and spending money) that no other decent lawyer will ever want to represent you in the future. In other words, you will be flagged as a troublemaker by the lawyers mafia and blacklisted.

happyjohn said:
Lawyers are like prostitutes; they drain you of money until you have nothing left.
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Difference is that with prostitutes you have fun in the process and you are not forced to hire them.

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[Martin Everson]

EliasIT said:
At that moment, I noticed their expressions change, mine did too after what followed. They informed me that there was a "confidential note" on the case, in which my former lawyer had written that there had been significant difficulties in cooperation and that I was unwilling to collaborate. My current lawyer immediately stepped in, pointing out to the tax authorities that this note was classified and that I was apparently not supposed to know about it. I was in shock for about two minutes, unable to say anything.
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The question is whether it is true or not what previous lawyer said?

EliasIT said:
During our meeting yesterday, the tax authorities asked me a series of questions. Then, suddenly, they inquired about my relationship with my lawyer and accountant in this case. I responded that it had been excellent and reiterated what I have just written above.
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They have made you look like a liar which indeed will not help your case if what the past lawyer said is provably true.

EliasIT said:
I was stunned by 1. the existence of this confidential note, and 2. the fact that my current lawyer had not informed me about it.
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It is not uncommon for a new lawyer not to rock the boat on past representation you may have had.

EliasIT said:
Can anyone provide qualified input on who is right in this situation and what possible steps I should take?
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Depends whether what lawyer said was true or not. If it is not true and you can prove it you can take legal action against him. But if it is true then no point.

EliasIT said:
In my view, this is absolutely relevant, and I now believe that my former lawyer may have completely sabotaged my case.
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It sounds like it if what he says is not true. Maybe he took exception to being dropped by you.

P.S I would not refer to your old lawyer as a friend any more. As he has stabbed you in the back Julius Caesar style.

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[EliasIT]

JohnnyDoe said:
As I continue to repeat, lawyers are not your friends!
They are an integral and essential part of the system, and you must use them only as a tool for handling technical matters. Once done, cordially discard them.

Never ever disclose to your lawyer any information you don't want a third party to access.

Lawyers will snitch and find every way to drain you of money, down to the last cent and beyond.

Forget about suing a lawyer: dog does not eat dog.

Unfortunately this situation is entirely your fault. Take it as a lesson for the future.
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Tue on all points, learned my lesson

Martin Everson said:
The question is whether it is true or not what previous lawyer said?
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It is not true, I was cooperative and we had a lot's of talks and hours of work together to prepare the file of 250 pages for the tax office.

I can't proof that, how should I be able to do that?

Martin Everson said:
P.S I would not refer to your old lawyer as a friend any more. As he has stabbed you in the back Julius Caesar style.
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Sadly true!

This is the biggest disappointment I have experienced in a long time, but unfortunately, it's not the first time I've been let down by people I thought I could trust or considered a friend.

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[JohnnyDoe]

Martin Everson said:
The question is whether it is true or not what previous lawyer said?
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Truth has no place in courtrooms. Forget about the concept of truth altogether when dealing with the legal system (which doesn't equal to “justice”).

Instead, always think in these terms:
1. Can it be proven?
2. Can the evidence be accepted in court?
3. Can the evidence be understood by the judge?
4. Is the judge willing to consider the evidence?
5. Is the judge willing to go against the interests of his boss? (The mafia state)

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[JohnnyDoe]

I recommend using this tool: https://www.plaud.ai/
Whenever you can, especially when talking to your lawyers, prosecutors, judges, government officers, law enforcement etc.
It might be a life saver.

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[Martin Everson]

EliasIT said:
I can't proof that, how should I be able to do that?
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Well actually if he made a accusation he would have to prove it. Just deny it if it is not true and carry on with case.

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[Simon4466]

https://www.advokatsamfundet.dk/english/about-us/the-disciplinary-board/

A bit of googling brought me here, not sure if it is worth the time/effort but this is a completely dispicable way that your lawyer handled your case!

 

[EliasIT]

JohnnyDoe said:
I recommend using this tool: https://www.plaud.ai/
Whenever you can, especially when talking to your lawyers, prosecutors, judges, government officers, law enforcement etc.
It might be a life saver.
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so what you recommend is to record the talk with the lawyer, that's a good idea.

Martin Everson said:
Well actually if he made a accusation he would have to prove it. Just deny it if it is not true and carry on with case.
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I don't think it is that easy and it may be very time consuming and where would you start to come that far?

Simon4466 said:
https://www.advokatsamfundet.dk/english/about-us/the-disciplinary-board/

A bit of googling brought me here, not sure if it is worth the time/effort but this is a completely dispicable way that your lawyer handled your case!
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Yeah I know, have been on the page already, still considering as a last option.

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[JohnnyDoe]

EliasIT said:
so what you recommend is to record the talk with the lawyer, that's a good idea.
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Only for the future, now it's too late. You can use the recordings as a blackmail tool.

EliasIT said:
I don't think it is that easy and it may be very time consuming and where would you start to come that far?
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EliasIT said:
Yeah I know, have been on the page already, still considering as a last option.
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Your are only going to waste time and money. Move on.

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[EliasIT]

JohnnyDoe said:
Only for the future, now it's too late. You can use the recordings as a blackmail tool.
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well noted

JohnnyDoe said:
Your are only going to waste time and money. Move on.
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They can reach me, but still I find the situation unfair to say it simple.

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[uplana]

Listen to what has been posted here, your lawyer and friends is a jackass and he took advantage on you for money. He was never your friend.

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[ShillGates]

JohnnyDoe said:
As I continue to repeat, lawyers are not your friends!
They are an integral and essential part of the system, and you must use them only as a tool for handling technical matters. Once done, cordially discard them.

Never ever disclose to your lawyer any information you don't want a third party to access.

Lawyers will snitch and find every way to drain you of money, down to the last cent and beyond.

Forget about suing a lawyer: dog does not eat dog.

Unfortunately this situation is entirely your fault. Take it as a lesson for the future.
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what he says yes 100%

 

[Konstanz]

EliasIT said:

Here is My Story​

As some of you may already know from reading my previous posts, I have had numerous issues with the Danish tax authorities (Skat). These problems have not diminished over the years, and I must admit that I am getting tired of it.

However, I have now reached the final case with Skat in Denmark and recently had the pleasure of attending a video meeting with one of their employees alongside my tax lawyer.

This is a new lawyer I am working with, specializing in criminal law within the tax field. This last case is now five years old, precisely one day away from reaching the statute of limitations! When the case began, I was represented by a lawyer I had known for nearly 15 years and had frequently used for various matters over the years. In other words, I considered him both a trusted friend and a competent attorney... or so I thought.

During our meeting yesterday, the tax authorities asked me a series of questions. Then, suddenly, they inquired about my relationship with my lawyer and accountant in this case. I responded that it had been excellent and reiterated what I have just written above.

At that moment, I noticed their expressions change, mine did too after what followed. They informed me that there was a "confidential note" on the case, in which my former lawyer had written that there had been significant difficulties in cooperation and that I was unwilling to collaborate. My current lawyer immediately stepped in, pointing out to the tax authorities that this note was classified and that I was apparently not supposed to know about it. I was in shock for about two minutes, unable to say anything.

I was stunned by 1. the existence of this confidential note, and 2. the fact that my current lawyer had not informed me about it.

When I confronted my current lawyer about this, he simply stated that he did not find it relevant!

In my view, this is absolutely relevant, and I now believe that my former lawyer may have completely sabotaged my case.

Can anyone provide qualified input on who is right in this situation and what possible steps I should take?

This is happening in Denmark, not the U.S., so legal action like suing someone is not as straightforward
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Well it seems you are unlucky and your Lawyers act against your interest. You should immediately discard your Lawyer and find new Lawyer
It is very hard to find good tax Lawyers. There are actually only few good Lawyers and not always you can find good tax Lawyer on internet...

The problem is that your accountant was your Lawyer as I understand.

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[EliasIT]

Konstanz said:
The problem is that your accountant was your Lawyer as I understand.
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No No, we had a reputable accounting firm in Denmark, one of the biggest to deal with all of it, they could also not understand why the tax office is making troubles like they do while everything they have asked for has been provided ASAP and proof nothing to come for.

But yeah, the lawyers are sick busters, I hate them like I hade the tax man in DK.

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[EliasIT]

A few days ago, I requested access to documents to obtain the classified report from the Tax Authority. Now, the person who originally wrote the report has responded, saying that he is no longer on the case and that my request has been forwarded.

Since then, I've received four phone calls, but I was only able to answer one of them. The caller was the same person who has been involved in the investigation for years. She called to ask if the document number I had provided was correct and what exactly I was looking for. I explained it in a few seconds, but she kept rambling on. In the end, she said she needed to find out who in the tax department had the authority to release the document to me.

Since then, they've called three more times, but I was unable to answer.

Are they trying to figure out where I am right now? They should be able to find that out by other means, or are they just being incompetent?

Do I have any reason to be paranoid? Officially, they don't even know where in the world I live, I just deregistered and told them I'm in Peru.

Shall I call them back ?

Any input would be appreciated 😀

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[Martin Everson]

I don't know how things work in Denmark. Do tax authorities over there usually contact people by phone? I find it extremely odd to get one phone call from tax official rather than a written letter or communication through attorney. And to get 7 calls is odd but then again they don't know where you live to communicate with you in writing maybe.

Have they never asked for your overseas address?

EliasIT said:
Are they trying to figure out where I am right now? They should be able to find that out by other means, or are they just being incompetent?

Do I have any reason to be paranoid? Officially, they don't even know where in the world I live, I just deregistered and told them I'm in Peru.

Shall I call them back ?
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Which country phone number you gave?

I would not be paranoid at moment. It could just be an over zealous employee. Give them an email address to reach you next time they call as your phone signal is often bad 😉. Call them back from a VOIP number or something and see what they want.

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[EliasIT]

Martin Everson said:
Which country phone number you gave?
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My Danish phone number.

She called again to inform me that someone else is responsible for providing the document access. She was very polite and friendly throughout the entire conversation.

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