Best tropical place to live?

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providenceventurer said:
A tranquil place to relax ,have good sea food enjoy the beach.Thats it.
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the island is full of American tourists and cruise ship passengers, most beaches are crowded

providenceventurer said:
If good internet is available then its even better.
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I don't remember when this was an issue last time anywhere....

providenceventurer said:
Doesnt it have some kind of connection with the Netherlands?
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it's a former colony (de facto still is), people speak Dutch and the only (or vast majority of) flights to Europe are to AMS....

 

[providenceventurer]

void said:
the island is full of American tourists and cruise ship passengers, most beaches are crowded


I don't remember when this was an issue last time anywhere....


it's a former colony (de facto still is), people speak Dutch and the only (or vast majority of) flights to Europe are to AMS....
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I was thinking i read somewhere that if you can become a permanent resident of curacao then you get an automatic right to stay in netherlands also.can anybody second this.How is the tax situation there can i run my offshore business from there and not get taxed to death.Then i can stay alternate months maybe between curacao and phillipines.When it heats up i can be in the UK or Novosibirsk or even spend time in the Netherlands based on being permanent resident of curacao.

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providenceventurer said:
I was thinking i read somewhere that if you can become a permanent resident of curacao then you get an automatic right to stay in netherlands also
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this is most likely nonsense but DYOR

Dutch (and US citizens) have special treatment when it comes to staying long-term in ABC islands but not vice-versa AFAIK

 

[daniels27]

providenceventurer said:
Are you staying there Everson.Maybe thats the best place for you to hide. Nobody visits nobody can find you isn't it? smi(&%
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Shibam is perfect hideout. Almost like Kowloon Walled City back in the days.

 

[providenceventurer]

void said:
this is most likely nonsense but DYOR

Dutch (and US citizens) have special treatment when it comes to staying long-term in ABC islands but not vice-versa AFAIK
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I wouldn't think it as nonsense based on this.

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[void]

providenceventurer said:
I wouldn't think it as nonsense based on this.
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holders of the passport of Curacao can travel visa free to Schengen - which doesn't mean (using your own words) residents in Curacao have right to stay in Netherlands - again.. just my opinion, anything is possible

 

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void said:
holders of the passport of Curacao can travel visa free to Schengen - which doesn't mean (using your own words) residents in Curacao have right to stay in Netherlands - again.. just my opinion, anything is possible
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The natives of Dutch territories (incl. Curaçao) hold Dutch citizenship and thus are EU citizens.

 

[Dandyline]

JustAnotherNomad said:
In the UAE, it's probably also the sand?
Australia has great air quality, it's just far away. The Bahamas seems to have good air quality as well, for example.
I understand that, in the end, it will be a compromise. I'm just trying to see what's out there.
Italy and Southern France are very nice, they're just too cold in winter. I guess in the end, I'll just stay in Dubai. The standard of living is very high and if you want a nice beach, you can always go and stay at nice hotel in another emirate or Oman over the weekend (beaches in Dubai itself aren't that great).
Or maybe Thailand, but I'm getting the feeling that only Bangkok would be developed enough for me... Would have to see if I can find somewhere quiet in Bangkok, maybe on a very high floor with an outdoor terrace. If you're on a lower floor, there is always so much street noise... Or maybe somewhere by the river.
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There aren't that many options out there. Dubai is pretty superior, but the overpriced rents are pretty annoying. Only a few areas are worth living in.

Bangkok might be good as well, offering very high value for money in terms of housing. You could get a large apartment in the Four Seasons Residences for maybe 5k per month, I guess.

 

[providenceventurer]

Dandyline said:
There aren't that many options out there. Dubai is pretty superior, but the overpriced rents are pretty annoying. Only a few areas are worth living in.

Bangkok might be good as well, offering very high value for money in terms of housing. You could get a large apartment in the Four Seasons Residences for maybe 5k per month, I guess.
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Which are the few areas worth living in Dubai as per you?

 

[providenceventurer]

void said:
holders of the passport of Curacao can travel visa free to Schengen - which doesn't mean (using your own words) residents in Curacao have right to stay in Netherlands - again.. just my opinion, anything is possible
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Maybe you are right but i will double check this because i am not 100% sure when they are talking about residents being able to go live in Netherlands.I thought all permanent residents would have the same rights.Because the investor residency program that they have is pointing towards that possibility only that they can be staying in Netherlands.
Edit:- However from a tax perspective it may not be that great as Curacao probably taxes worldwide income( who gave them that idea - the US?)

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[cryptofriendly]

Martin Everson said:
Yemen
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Have they fixed the submarine cables in the Red Sea for Internet access yet?
At least Starlink still works.

 

[Martin Everson]

providenceventurer said:
Are you staying there Everson.Maybe thats the best place for you to hide. Nobody visits nobody can find you isn't it? smi(&%
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Just saying you could consider living in paradise on the Yemen island of Socotra smi(&%. One of the most beautiful islands in the world


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[JustAnotherNomad]

Dandyline said:
There aren't that many options out there. Dubai is pretty superior, but the overpriced rents are pretty annoying. Only a few areas are worth living in.
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Exactly. And you can easily pay $10k per month for something nice in Dubai.

Dandyline said:
Bangkok might be good as well, offering very high value for money in terms of housing. You could get a large apartment in the Four Seasons Residences for maybe 5k per month, I guess.
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Yes, or Malaysia. Definitely much better value for money than Dubai...
Good to see that you understand what I'm after!

 

[JustAnotherNomad]

providenceventurer said:
Which are the few areas worth living in Dubai as per you?
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Really depends on what you're looking for.
But basically Downtown and Palm Jumeirah. There are also some family-friendly communities like Arabian Ranches and Al Bahari, but I haven't been there.
But prices are crazy everywhere.

 

[thomasparra]

Dandyline said:
There aren't that many options out there. Dubai is pretty superior, but the overpriced rents are pretty annoying. Only a few areas are worth living in.

Bangkok might be good as well, offering very high value for money in terms of housing. You could get a large apartment in the Four Seasons Residences for maybe 5k per month, I guess.
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I think Four Season Residences in BKK is more around USD10k per month for their nice apartments. 5-6k is for their "small" standard apartments.

Anyhow, why paying this much for a high rise apartment in Bangkok? It's not a house either (even though it might be better due to noise and pollution on ground level).

Terrible value compared to the local market I'd say. Even going through platforms, I can find nice Airbnbs for twice cheaper.

But if you are truly HNW I guess you would not care about the price difference, I guess you get more convenience living in Four Seasons.

 

[JustAnotherNomad]

Martin Everson said:
Just saying you could consider living in paradise on the Yemen island of Socotra smi(&%. One of the most beautiful islands in the world
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Not sure I'm getting the joke here. I have met people from Socotra. The poverty is just sad. I believe 80% or so of the population can't even read or write?

 

[JustAnotherNomad]

thomasparra said:
Terrible value compared to the local market I'd say. Even going through platforms, I can find nice Airbnbs for twice cheaper.
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I agree, FS Residences generally seem way overpriced. You pay for the brand.
But it's an indication that something nice exists - if there are FS Residences, you could probably find something comparable for 50-30% less without the brand name, as you said.
In places that don't even have something like that, it probably doesn't exist on the regular market either.

 

[thomasparra]

JustAnotherNomad said:
I agree, FS Residences generally seem way overpriced. You pay for the brand.
But it's an indication that something nice exists - if there are FS Residences, you could probably find something comparable for 50-30% less without the brand name, as you said.
In places that don't even have something like that, it probably doesn't exist on the regular market either.
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They feel quite impersonal as well. It must be hard to make them feel like home. Glorified Hotels/Investment Airbnbs from the portfolios I have looked at.

 

[JustAnotherNomad]

I haven't checked them out.
A friend of mine used to live in an apartment hotel in Dubai (might have been one of the Address properties, not sure), and it was actually really nice.
I have lived in so many different places in my life, I don't think I ever want to furnish a place again.
Besides, to me, it's just a commodity. I don't really care about my surroundings as long as they are nice. But I guess that's what nomadism does to you.
I just can't stand low quality.

 

[thomasparra]

JustAnotherNomad said:
I haven't checked them out.
A friend of mine used to live in an apartment hotel in Dubai (might have been one of the Address properties, not sure), and it was actually really nice.
I have lived in so many different places in my life, I don't think I ever want to furnish a place again.
Besides, to me, it's just a commodity. I don't really care about my surroundings as long as they are nice. But I guess that's what nomadism does to you.
I just can't stand low quality.
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Unless you live in very high end (and I mean almost true 5-star/luxurious) place, it will never feel high-quality to me. Let me list a few examples of things that are often more of a miss than a hit:

- No privacy when bringing guests/girls (staff and cameras)
- TVs. Generally they are shitty, and even if you get a decent one, it is probably a low cost model (I don't think they would put an OLED TV, even in a FS residence for example)
- Walkway passage & irregular cleaning times. Can't stand corridor noises and people knocking on the door at random times
- Door cards regularly demagnetizing
- Generic furniture and cheap decorations and paintings
- The people around you are all here temporarily = it just feels like a hotel; because it is.
- Kitchen is generally under equipped, equipment is shitty (most of them use electric stove, or weak/cheap induction ones). I never came across a proper induction or gas stove.
- More expensive than renting a place yourself, furnishing it is not that expensive if you have a bit of a longer term vision (1-2 years)
- Reliance on staff for everything. I don't want to depend on someone to do my laundry. I also don't want the staff to burn my expensive clothes because they wash them at 60 degrees and tumble dry them.
- Can not always be used as a place of residence to justify your residence for tax purposes