do you realize how oxymoronic this statement is?12345 said:
telegram is deleting channels only in extreme cases like child P**N, terrorism. Other than that they do not
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At least some people get it, though if you analyse -> we are looking at top town communism (opposed to historically bottom up) - correct not an exact communism but basically aspects of it, its gonna be painful for those that haven't already left the West less so for those that have already done so, it will be increasingly difficult also in the future to extrapolate wealth outside of the system (outside of the Western System) as they not only debase (increasing optical valuations) and then increasingly tax.mraleph said:
, last decade's event's are leading to an extinction level economic events for majority of people.
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wellington said:
At least some people get it, though if you analyse -> we are looking at top town communism (opposed to historically bottom up) - correct not an exact communism but basically aspects of it, its gonna be painful for those that haven't already left the West less so for those that have already done so, it will be increasingly difficult also in the future to extrapolate wealth outside of the system (outside of the Western System) as they not only debase (increasing optical valuations) and then increasingly tax.
You are already seeing this come in to full play in the UK.
Ref TG privacy, problem is MLAT(s) are slow, and activities occur in real time
Note the privacy was only to 'secret' chats, generic ones were not covered.
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GPT said:
I can't stop to think about this chick being a honey pot..
If so, I hope that Durov enjoyed that pussy long enough.
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Yes true but they need to do at least something to avoid legal trouble from gov which it seems like they failed to avoid either way. At least its better than facebook or whatsapp, even ukraine and russia use it for military purpose. Sure you can use use something like jabber for more safety but its really pain in the a*s to use and difficult to convince somebody non familiar with it to use it. Well it comes down to personal preference and what business you are involved in.void said:
do you realize how oxymoronic this statement is?
it's encrypted, or is it not? 😀
they not only shouldn't care/do anything like this but first of all they should design their software the way it's technically impossible for them do so
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The things you mention I have no issues with.John Spectre said:
Don't use it for illegal s**t like a drugs, weapon, child P**N etc(I don't know else what you use which affect you with deleted channels) and it will be fine.
For my purpose I never had problem with deleting or other moderation from application side.
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"leading to an extinction level event for majority of people". I've rephrased the last part of the above for you. It's a lot worse than -just- the economy.mraleph said:
When reading the forums, I perceive that a lot of people react improperly - focusing on a segment, an isolated detail and trying to revert or change the tides of tax policies etc. - where that's not adaptive behavior - they don't anticipate nor comprehend the meaning of the processes and phenomena. On a societal scale, last decade's event's are leading to an extinction level economic events for majority of people.
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Unfortunately they do. Every month channels & groups magically disappear.12345 said:
telegram is deleting channels only in extreme cases like child P**N, terrorism. Other than that they do not
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And according to some news she hasnt been spotted anywhere since the arrest. Is she arrested herself or did she magically disappear because of mission accomplished?mraleph said:
To complicate the pour ********'s fate more, Mr Yulia Vavilova is an Israeli citizen beside other perks 😉
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Because Zucky is on a leash....uranium said:
Come on my friend it is very innocent question they both are competitors who run messaging app
Hehehe..
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GPT said:
And according to some news she hasnt been spotted anywhere since the arrest. Is she arrested herself or did she magically disappear because of mission accomplished?
If the ladder is the case.. unless she gets surgery she can't do public profile cases anymore.
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jafo said:
This has MAJORLY backfired on FRANCE: 😉
https://twitter.com/x/status/1828525780780851466
smi(&% rof/%
PS. I thought it would have been Putin...but I see the UAE still has some balls left!
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100% this!mraleph said:
Mr Durov is truly a useful idiot for all the countries whose citizenship he holds
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It is NOT encrypted that was the problem, he thought he could just not give a f.... about these takedown requests even though his app was not E2EE, this was pretty much the only reason he was arrested and not say a Zuckerberg who owns whatsapp (fully E2EE)void said:
do you realize how oxymoronic this statement is?
it's encrypted, or is it not? 😀
they not only shouldn't care/do anything like this but first of all they should design their software the way it's technically impossible for them do so
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GPT said:
The things you mention I have no issues with.
Channels about Russian / Ukrainian / Israeli news or opposing opinions in first & second world countries however... Or controversial topics such as 911 or covid etc. Do you consider that also problematic?
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I have never seen such a message but so much for telegram
Again; TG did comply with EOD take down notices on many occasions. Specifically take down, not just censorship what they did re apple users.Simon4466 said:
It is NOT encrypted that was the problem, he thought he could just not give a f.... about these takedown requests even though his app was not E2EE, this was pretty much the only reason he was arrested and not say a Zuckerberg who owns whatsapp (fully E2EE)
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I have seen several news channels banned. And now? Yes/ no game?John Spectre said:
Never seen this banned in tg.
Being Ukrainian, I have list of number of russian/Ukrainian public channels about war with quite sensitive information: real time war videos with uncensored body parts, mass kiling, cutting off heads and other body parts of Ukrainian prisoners of war by Russian soldiers and other materials of a cruel nature.
Not a single channel of such was banned/deleted/moderated. NOT A SINGLE ONE. They have millions of subscribers and fully public and operate for a years. For Israeli of my area interest the same.
conspiracy theories about covid, 911, flat earth and other crap that wank about are not very interesting to me, so I don't know what's going on there 🙂
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Thank you. Dozens of this. It comes and goes in waves.
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There are many channels on telegram on "controversial topics" and they are running since many years, I haven't seen any channel get taken down. Telegram is not perfect but way better than whatsapp, facebook with unreal cenzorship. Well they would not arrest the guy if telegram was 100% controlled by the globalists
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Could you name few? If it related to the ru-ua war and if they popular I'm pretty sure I might know them.