Private Account outside EU

[Clearsky Network]

GlobalConsult said:
Hi all,

I am looking for an account opening at Banks/EMI outside EU, e.g. Switzerland, Serbia, Montenegro, Albania, etc.

It should be a serious and safe solution!
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Which passport do you hold?
What about HSBC UK?
Minimum deposit 25k GBP, can be good as long as you you are not a passport holder of a problematic country.
Swiss banks are great as well, but usually require 300k minimum deposit.

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[GlobalConsult]

German Passport and citizen

I will open an account without deposit

 

[daniels27]

GlobalConsult said:
German Passport and citizen

I will open an account without deposit
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Then Yuh or Yapeal.

 

[GlobalConsult]

daniels27 said:
Then Yuh or Yapeal.
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Thanks.

Does anyone have an idea where I can open an account with an EMI but OUTSIDE Germany with a DE/FR/IT IBAN?

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[daniels27]

GlobalConsult said:
Thanks.

Does anyone have an idea where I can open an account with an EMI but OUTSIDE Germany with a DE/FR/IT IBAN?
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Bunq.

 

[JosephLL]

I might use the opportunity and spare a thread since it's on-topic: What are the options for nonEEA person to have exposure to CHF? Current / savings / investment account EMI / retail bank whatever just without huge deposit in front?

 

[GlobalConsult]

JosephLL said:
I might use the opportunity and spare a thread since it's on-topic: What are the options for nonEEA person to have exposure to CHF? Current / savings / investment account EMI / retail bank whatever just without huge deposit in front?
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Not only in Switzerland. Maybe also in other countries outside EU/Europe.

 

[JosephLL]

GlobalConsult said:
Not only in Switzerland. Maybe also in other countries outside EU/Europe.
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Well only in case there is no option in Switz itself. IIdeally I don't want a bank in another jurisdiction showing me a false "CHF" unit next to the amount when it's not a deposit but a "payments receivable" from a swiss bank (or even worse a few more hops further from it). When shtf I'd like to have a real chf *deposit** exposure.

 

[daniels27]

JosephLL said:
I might use the opportunity and spare a thread since it's on-topic: What are the options for nonEEA person to have exposure to CHF? Current / savings / investment account EMI / retail bank whatever just without huge deposit in front?
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Many options from EMIs like Wise, Revolut, OFX, Amnis, etc. to brokers like IBKR to real banks like HSBC in Hong Kong and elsewhere, Barclays, CommBank, Evoca, etc. further to Swiss banks like Swissquote or Dukascopy.

But it really depends on what you are looking for. If you want to speculate, I would go with a broker that is focussed on speculation and then do USDCHF EURCHF etc. as you have much lower spreads than when you are actually converting. If you don't like the gambling and want to hold to the money, IBKR certainly has very low fees. If you want to use the bills, then better use HSBC etc. but expect some fees. Swissquote might be a cheaper alternative if you can deposit bills in Switzerland.

 

[JackAlabama]

JosephLL said:
Well only in case there is no option in Switz itself. IIdeally I don't want a bank in another jurisdiction showing me a false "CHF" unit next to the amount when it's not a deposit but a "payments receivable" from a swiss bank (or even worse a few more hops further from it). When shtf I'd like to have a real chf *deposit** exposure.
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when shtf this wont save you at all.
Best you collect biden bucks bills or chf bills and store them somewhere safe if you're in the 3d world without the funds for getting a real banking there and for whatever reason must do it.
swiss franc is nothing special at all anyway, when time gets tough they get a friendly call from Uncle sam and fold like a cheap suit.

 

[liroyb]

Clearsky Network said:
Which passport do you hold?
What about HSBC UK?
Minimum deposit 25k GBP, can be good as long as you you are not a passport holder of a problematic country.
Swiss banks are great as well, but usually require 300k minimum deposit.
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Can you share which HSBC branch in UK accepts non residents for 25K GBP deposit?

 

[Clank]

Can highly recommend HSBC Expat in Jersey.

You don't need to meet minimum balance if your salary is high enough.

 

[Forester]

Also another banks at British Crown Dependencies are worth attention in the context of this thread. E.g. Barclays International at the Isle of Man is a good one, IMO.

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[nobel]

Clank said:
Can highly recommend HSBC Expat in Jersey.
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HSBC Expat in Jersey not works SEPA. You pay a lot of fees. When you receive money and send money it costs a lot. And money is deducted from the recipient.

Only Barclays International at the Isle of Man has no fees and SEPA works!

 

[nobel]

nobel said:
HSBC Expat in Jersey not works SEPA. You pay a lot of fees. When you receive money and send money it costs a lot. And money is deducted from the recipient.

Only Barclays International at the Isle of Man has no fees and SEPA works!
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You have to have 100K GBP or 120K EUR on Barclays International it or you pay 45 EUR/GBP/month. Not an option for me, as you can invest 100K better elsewhere even with 3.5% interest.

 

[PhantomOf ThePits]

nobel said:
HSBC Expat in Jersey not works SEPA. You pay a lot of fees. When you receive money and send money it costs a lot. And money is deducted from the recipient.

Only Barclays International at the Isle of Man has no fees and SEPA works!
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Thanks for the recommendation

Does HSBC Expat Jersey or Barclays IOM provide access to buy stocks/money market funds?

45 EUR month really cheap

 

[nobel]

PhantomOf ThePits said:
Thanks for the recommendation

Does HSBC Expat Jersey or Barclays IOM provide access to buy stocks/money market funds?

45 EUR month really cheap
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No stocks/money market funds possible for a 120K EUR account.
For 120K EUR you get 350 EUR a month income (Money market ETF elsewhere.). I prefer that rather than paying 45 EUR a month.

 

[Clank]

nobel said:
HSBC Expat in Jersey not works SEPA. You pay a lot of fees. When you receive money and send money it costs a lot. And money is deducted from the recipient.

Only Barclays International at the Isle of Man has no fees and SEPA works!
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Sending money is free to any country. You don't need to pay anything. HSBC Global Money pays for all intermediary fees.

I think it's one of the cheapest options to be honest.

 

[Clank]

PhantomOf ThePits said:
Thanks for the recommendation

Does HSBC Expat Jersey or Barclays IOM provide access to buy stocks/money market funds?

45 EUR month really cheap
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It has stock brokerage account, yes. With very low fees, you need to request it to your RM.

The fees for brokerage account in HSBC are 5$ max for any amount for US stocks.

 

[nobel]

Clank said:
Sending money is free to any country. You don't need to pay anything. HSBC Global Money pays for all intermediary fees.

I think it's one of the cheapest options to be honest.
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The bank would have to select the OUR option and this actually costs between 20-50 EUR per transfer:

OUR: The transfer fees are paid before you initiate the transfer. This means that the transfer amount is expected to be paid in full to the recipient.