Owning assets in the EU through the trust

[yngmind]

Does Cook Islands Trust would protect your assets in the EU from seizure? I don't think so.


Tate's assets in the West were seized, and his Bugatti is still in Dubai.

His assets outside of the EU, UK, and US are probably fine sitting in the Cook Islands trusts.

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[JohnLocke]

I don't know if I would trust anything I see from that Andrew Tate - The man is a fantastic actor, he is a criminal and a fantastic businessman. The YouTube videos he publishes as well as all his websites serve only one purpose, to make you believe there is a solution so you pay him a lot of money only to find out afterward that there wasn't one after all.

It is untrustworthy, especially when you have seen him on TV - I would never trust such a man or what he promotes.

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[yngmind]

JohnLocke said:
I don't know if I would trust anything I see from that Andrew Tate - The man is a fantastic actor, he is a criminal and a fantastic businessman. The YouTube videos he publishes as well as all his websites serve only one purpose, to make you believe there is a solution so you pay him a lot of money only to find out afterward that there wasn't one after all.

It is untrustworthy, especially when you have seen him on TV - I would never trust such a man or what he promotes.
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True, but he made some solid points about asset protection, and he knows a thing or two about that.

I think we all should look at his case, and what worked for him, and what didn't

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[JohnLocke]

yngmind said:
I think we all should look at his case, and what worked for him, and what didn't
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before you do that, I think we all should check this thread
https://www.offshorecorptalk.com/threads/andrews-tate-zero-taxe-advice-works-in-uk-and-usa.41236/

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[yngmind]

JohnLocke said:
before you do that, I think we all should check this thread
https://www.offshorecorptalk.com/threads/andrews-tate-zero-taxe-advice-works-in-uk-and-usa.41236/
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I agree. He told lots of BS just for clout, and he is not experienced in the offshore world and the tax field.

But owning nothing personally and using trusts makes a lot of sense in today's world.

This is also a good point: Avoid banking in the West and in the places where you do business and live.

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[AtlasShrugged]

Every time someone say, "Give me money and I'll teach you to make money." The scam alert should ring in your head.

 

[jafo]

It would be interesting to see which countries jumped on the:

(??) "Let's-get-on-the-get-Tate-at-all-cost bandwagon and rob him of all of his assets so the political parasites and their sycophant order followers repackaged as public servants can usurp money and assets they NEVER worked for and do NOT deserve."

Versus...which countries real men who took the following moral mature stance:

(XY) "F&ck this!
It's NOT my property.
It's Tate's property.
He earned it.
I didn't work for it, and I didn't earn it!
I'm NOT a POS c*ckold-supporting-scumbag PURLOINER hellbent on stealing what is NOT mine!"

smi(&% rof/%

PS. I hope you all like the colors I used. rof/% smi(&% I do NOT know which types of chromosomes to assign to the former group (??). rof/% smi(&% It's the best I could muster, having ZERO knowledge, penchant, or skill in the (??) group! I want to reiterate that the (??) group is entirely OUTSIDE my CIRCLE of competence, but I would be lying because I am NOT even aware if it's a circle 🙄 , and in this context, I prefer NOT to use words like "circle" in my repertoire as it may elicit undesirable thoughts to those "colorful gender-confused public servants vulturing" around OCT trying to impress their political slavemasters with their kleptomania. smi(&% rof/% As far as "circle" is concerned... NO pun intended rof/% smi(&%

 

[clemens]

AtlasShrugged said:
Every time someone say, "Give me money and I'll teach you to make money." The scam alert should ring in your head.
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agree.

When a service provider recommends Andrew Tate videos because they are supposed to describe reality, you can bet I stay far away from both the video and the service provider.

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[jafo]

clemens said:
When a service provider recommends Andrew Tate videos because they are supposed to describe reality, you can bet I stay far away from both the video and the service provider.
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I'm going to disagree with this, but hear me out...

Maybe, just maybe, it could be that the purpose of Tate's life is only to serve as a warning to others!!!

Knowing what Tate used and how he did it and STILL got attacked by the scumbags should serve as a HUGE warning to others. 😉

Let me explain with just one picture and one example...

This is Europe's map.

For example, say you can buy certain Louis Vuitton products in Lisbon for X and sell them in Oslo for 1.4X.

Because others similar to "the Tates" have met with HUGE financial losses and criminal prosecution in France even when the products acquired in Lisbon have been proven, after +5 years of criminal prosecution, to be genuine products purchased from authorized stores belonging to Louis Vuitton, we are keenly aware to AVOID traveling through France.
Source: Why You Should Leave Your Designer Clothing at Home. Every country has their laws that seem unjust and that clearly don't benefit the public. It's important to know about these laws before you travel so you can avoid ruining your vacation (or your life!) - You may have heard that counterfeits are illegal in France, but it's important to fully understand what this means. Customs officers have the right to seize anything they ”˜suspect' is a fake / counterfeit, fine you and charge you with a criminal offense. As we explain below, if you're wearing anything with a logo, authentic or not, you run this risk. Customs has the right to inspect and potentially take any item bearing a brand name or logo. Because of this law, we recommend that you do not purchase or wear any product that bears a trademarked logo or style while in France.

Find ANOTHER way!
If somebody else is selling ANOTHER way, the useless, unproductive parasites of the state are ALSO buying it. It's NOT their money they are spending to find out where else they can rob others. They KNOW where to go!

There are MILLIONS of other cases where people like the Tates serve as a HUGE warning to others. A lawyer, an officer of the court and licensed by the "state," would charge us millions for some stupid scribbles on paper that are commonly referred to as "Legal Opinions." Still, in the end, these rough toilet papers will do NOTHING! The gang members of the state will STILL steal our assets, we will STILL pay the lawyers huge amounts, which the lawyer will share with the state (+/- 50% taxes on the lawyer's income), and the chances of ending up in prison due to parallel construction is HUGE!

I, for one, am grateful Tate is being the martyr! Better him than me! 😎

The whole raison d'être of OCT is hinged on others, more experienced ones, sharing their past experiences so the rest of us can avoid these pitfalls and bumps in the road to success. 😉

The best part? Tate is doing it for FREE! We're getting all this front seat to his personal drama unfolding from the comfort of our cozy homes without even paying for it. H3ll! I'd pay for it (anonymously, of course smi(&%). We all see what these parasites have done to this man. They aren't physically conditioned to take Tate in a man-to-man battle. The political and judicial parasites are sending low-IQ martyrs with 47 chromosomes disguised as "law-abiding order followers" to gang up on a man they are terrified to meet in a dark alley in the streets of Somalia after midnight in a man-to-man confrontation. 😎

If anything, I salute all the guys who are publicly taking one for the team. Their struggle has dramatically improved my strategies and tactics.

I wish them ALL the best! ange¤%&

PS. In other words, TL;DR, find ALL the "secrets" the useless, unproductive parasites ALSO have access to ***AND*** AVOID THESE "secrets" like the plague! smi(&%
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[wellington]

Moral of the story - move to the global south where it's so fucked up but there's bigger problems than surveying the average non native resident.

Enjoy trips to the Global North but have freedom, liberty, lifestyle, sunshine and coconuts whilst everyone else jumps through hoops back in the west.

 

[AtlasShrugged]

jafo said:
It would be interesting to see which countries jumped on the:

(??) "Let's-get-on-the-get-Tate-at-all-cost bandwagon and rob him of all of his assets so the political parasites and their sycophant order followers repackaged as public servants can usurp money and assets they NEVER worked for and do NOT deserve."
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Which countries seized his assets? Most western/EU countries aren't really independent countries and just bend over for Brussel/US anyway, so you might as well regard them as a single entity.

If Tate would have moved to Dubai (or any other country for that matter), groomed a bunch of native Dubai girls to work in camming and then gotten busted by Dubai's authorities, what would the consequences be? I find it hard to believe the monarch would be like, "
F&ck this!
It's NOT my property.
It's Tate's property.
He earned it.
I didn't work for it, and I didn't earn it!
I'm NOT a POS c*ckold-supporting-scumbag PURLOINER hellbent on stealing what is NOT mine!"

 

[jafo]

AtlasShrugged said:
Which countries seized his assets? Most western/EU countries aren't really independent countries and just bend over for Brussel/US anyway, so you might as well regard them as a single entity.

If Tate would have moved to Dubai (or any other country for that matter), groomed a bunch of native Dubai girls to work in camming and then gotten busted by Dubai's authorities, what would the consequences be? I find it hard to believe the monarch would be like, "
F&ck this!
It's NOT my property.
It's Tate's property.
He earned it.
I didn't work for it, and I didn't earn it!
I'm NOT a POS c*ckold-supporting-scumbag PURLOINER hellbent on stealing what is NOT mine!"
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Yeah, but Dubai is also a vassal state. They broke their promises and commitments by introducing a 9% tax and trying to use sophistry and casuistry by still claiming there are no personal income taxes in Dubai. 😡 Not only are they devoid of a man's word and integrity, but it's obvious those monarchs have NEVER been punched in the face! They're toxic AF!
Get TOXIC people OUT of your life!
Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett said it best here:

AtlasShrugged said:
groomed a bunch of native Dubai girls to work in camming
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I have NO dog in this fight, but I've been in fights against

jafo said:
political parasites and their sycophant order followers repackaged as public servants
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and they are such scummy, evil, and pathological liars that it would BLOW your mind!
I spare NO mercy for them!
As for the charges, it seems this is more and more common:

Source: Pair who claim to be among Andrew Tate victims say they weren't abused

🙄

PS. I think you will find humor in this skit by Bill Burr:
If you really want to laugh and roll on the floor, watch the whole thing rof/%

 

[JohnLocke]

AtlasShrugged said:
Which countries seized his assets? Most western/EU countries aren't really independent countries and just bend over for Brussel/US anyway, so you might as well regard them as a single entity.

If Tate would have moved to Dubai (or any other country for that matter), groomed a bunch of native Dubai girls to work in camming and then gotten busted by Dubai's authorities, what would the consequences be? I find it hard to believe the monarch would be like, "
F&ck this!
It's NOT my property.
It's Tate's property.
He earned it.
I didn't work for it, and I didn't earn it!
I'm NOT a POS c*ckold-supporting-scumbag PURLOINER hellbent on stealing what is NOT mine!"
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You are right; it seems arbitrary how they punish some people while others are allowed to live their lavish lives in Dubai regardless of how criminal they are or what offenses they have committed.

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[AtlasShrugged]

jafo said:
Yeah, but Dubai is also a vassal state. They broke their promises and commitments by introducing a 9% tax and trying to use sophistry and casuistry by still claiming there are no personal income taxes in Dubai. 😡 Not only are they devoid of a man's word and integrity, but it's obvious those monarchs have NEVER been punched in the face! They're toxic AF!
Get TOXIC people OUT of your life!
Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett said it best here:



I have NO dog in this fight, but I've been in fights against

and they are such scummy, evil, and pathological liars that it would BLOW your mind!
I spare NO mercy for them!
As for the charges, it seems this is more and more common:
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Source: Pair who claim to be among Andrew Tate victims say they weren't abused

🙄

PS. I think you will find humor in this skit by Bill Burr:
If you really want to laugh and roll on the floor, watch the whole thing rof/%
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I'm also sceptical every time a woman screams rape. I still believe Mike Tyson is innocent since there was no way to prove that he's guilty or many others for that matter. I don't know if you have heard of the girlsdoporn story, you can look it up if you want to be disgusted.
Either Tate ran his cam business like girlsdoporn or he's done it professionally. For now, I don't know. I'll never cheer for an innocent man going to jail, and I do hope he's innocent, but there are videos of him talking about grooming girls to his business, which is not legal in Romania. If he was accused of something similar in any other country, their reaction would either be the same or harsher. I have seen some comments here calling Romania for the wild west and banana republic because of this case, which isn't true at all.

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[jafo]

JohnLocke said:
while others are allowed to live their lavish lives in Dubai regardless of how criminal they are
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You are 100% right!
The exception, though, is...
But they aren't trying to "wake others up" about a political criminal system and whatnot. 😉

Same for Assange, Snowden, and countless more....ca#"!

Suppose an unknown John Doe went on podcasts tomorrow and started to explain the criminal justice system and all the stuff he witnessed on the other side (e.g., IT from an early age for the "law") and started dropping names of politicians, judges, prosecutors, etc., their surreptitiously recorded criminal conversations and more. In that case, you can rest assured there would be tens if not hundreds of #metoo witnesses against him tomorrow. Some of these witnesses would cry about witnessing and enduring horrible crimes, and most of us would believe them. It would be "callous" and evil NOT to "believe" them. ange¤%&

Prime example:

Source: Nayirah testimony - Wikipedia

Where is the outrage? I don't see anyone calling to put her *&^% on a platter or imprison her for life.damn_(


PS. She is alive and well, living a lavish lifestyle in Kuwait. She had immunity in the US, which is why those who gave her the immunity used her to push their agenda. Imagine if Russia gave Natasha immunity and Natasha lied so Russia could invade Ukraine. Natasha would be on every Interpol Red Notice site for eternity. cry&¤