inector said:
Hi,
Jersey, Isle of Man, Guernsey and many others legally let you reduce CIT to 0% wherever you are, assuming you get a substance.
But...which ones have the cheapest substance so you don't pay $10s+ per year.
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Not a bad approach but this way you could miss out a lot of special tax regimes, freezones, etc., depending on your activities. Also check withholding taxes on top of headline corporate tax.Sols said:
Just get a list of countries sorted by lowest corporate tax rate and get a list of countries by lowest GDP per capita. Find countries that have low corporate tax and low GDP per capita.
Low tax is what you want. Low GDP per capita usually equates to low cost of labor, i.e. you can cheaply hire a couple of workers to be the substance of the company.
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Indeed. I wouldn't recommend using Wikipedia for that part of the exercise. I would start looking at jurisdictions that have free zones, and jurisdictions which have a reputation for being tax havens/low tax.Don said:
Not a bad approach but this way you could miss out a lot of special tax regimes, freezones, etc., depending on your activities. Also check withholding taxes on top of headline corporate tax.
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Sols said:
Just get a list of countries sorted by lowest corporate tax rate and get a list of countries by lowest GDP per capita. Find countries that have low corporate tax and low GDP per capita.
Low tax is what you want. Low GDP per capita usually equates to low cost of labor, i.e. you can cheaply hire a couple of workers to be the substance of the company.
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Just looking at this (i've never considered anything like this, but in theory).inector said:
Hi,
Jersey, Isle of Man, Guernsey and many others legally let you reduce CIT to 0% wherever you are, assuming you get a substance.
But...which ones have the cheapest substance so you don't pay $10s+ per year.
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Yep, you're on the right track. Although in the case of Barbados, I'd just form a Barbadian company and pay the 5.5% down to 1% corporate tax. Then you have company and substance all in one place, with an attractive tax rate.wellington said:
Just looking at this (i've never considered anything like this, but in theory).
BVI Corp -> Barbados 'Graphic Designer ' + Barbados 'Copywriter' = 500$ per month. - ensure you've hired on a salary
+ Shared Office (300$).
Then i guess just all depends on yourself, actively being involved in the business operations, or passive shareholder, or relocating to a country with no world-wide taxes.
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Don't forget the dividend withholding taxes, which for individual shareholders can be up to 15% depending on personal tax residence, so it requires some additional structuring to keep the tax rate low.Sols said:
Yep, you're on the right track. Although in the case of Barbados, I'd just form a Barbadian company and pay the 5.5% down to 1% corporate tax. Then you have company and substance all in one place, with an attractive tax rate.
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That wouldn't really work (in our scenario forecasts) as we would loose money annually in rate-rise years, and then a home run in rate decline years (usually 18 months) based on our forecasts, and the 5% could easily be a considerable set of figures in tax.
I wasn't proposing residence in Barbados. Just incorporation and substance there.Don said:
Don't forget the dividend withholding taxes, which for individual shareholders can be up to 15% depending on personal tax residence, so it requires some additional structuring to keep the tax rate low.
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If you're a natural person resident in Barbados, yes. But if you're a non-resident, it might be lower or even zero. And WHT paid in Barbados might be applicable as tax credit where received, depending on whether there's a tax treaty and what it says.Don said:
https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/barbados/corporate/withholding-taxes
Barbados residency is not very desirable with this structure since you would be exposed to 15% WHT on dividends from your Barbadian company.
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It's unusual but the tax rate actually goes down the higher the taxable basis is. It's 5.5% on the first 1 million BBD (500,000 USD), 3.0% on the next 19 million BBD, et cetera, down to 1%.
Yeah, i read that (apologies)Sols said:
It's unusual but the tax rate actually goes down the higher the taxable basis is. It's 5.5% on the first 1 million BBD (500,000 USD), 3.0% on the next 19 million BBD, et cetera, down to 1%.
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That is indeed interesting, how would Estonia view BVI considering that it's a high-risk jurisdiction?Don said:
Since I believe OP was an Estonian tax resident with an Estonian company, most sensible would be to establish a branch office for the Estonian company in Barbados
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That's a dream.Sols said:
It's unusual but the tax rate actually goes down the higher the taxable basis is. It's 5.5% on the first 1 million BBD (500,000 USD), 3.0% on the next 19 million BBD, et cetera, down to 1%.
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Jersey is usually the most expensive of the three, but it'll be a similar order of magnitude in IOM and Guernsey as well if the pricing includes genuine substance.inector said:
Got quoted like 20-30K per year for a Jersey company, I assume the same for IOM and Guernsey.
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There's a decent chance you can get a bank account opened in Labuan if you have an actual presence in Labuan. Hard to say for sure if a single 200 USD/month employee is enough.inector said:
Labuan seems like an option, with only 1 employee at 200$ per month, but then what are the chances for a traditional bank...plus people across forum have quite negative reviews of it.
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Don said:
most sensible would be to establish a branch office for the Estonian company in Barbados, since in such case you can just pay the corporate income tax in Barbados and freely pass such income as dividends to the head company and then to yourself.
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BVI is viewed pretty much the same way as Russia in the EU (better to avoid as you get hit with tax)inector said:
That is indeed interesting, how would Estonia view BVI considering that it's a high-risk jurisdiction?
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reduced to 0% if paid out of income earned outside of BarbadosMarzio said:
Not so fast, you didn't consider the 5% branch profit tax on profits remitted to the head company (unless DTA lowers that tax to 0% and unfortunately Estonia doesn't have a DTA with Barbados)
https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/barbados/corporate/branch-income
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UAE participation exemption requires the participation to be subject to tax in its country or territory of residence at a rate that is not lower than 9%.Marzio said:
UAE FZ + BB branch instead could work.
It could also work with a UK LTD with branch exemption but don't know if HMRC would accept that.
@Sols What do you think?
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