Investors need cash and they take it from where they can.SoNewToAllShit said:
I have read lots of places that Bitcoin got its heyday during the recession in 2008, everything fell, bitcoin rose!
So what happens now, the Stock market is down, the Crypto market is down and even Gold is down?
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BTC was not a thing then.SoNewToAllShit said:
I have read lots of places that Bitcoin got its heyday during the recession in 2008, everything fell, bitcoin rose!
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Commodities are going up.SoNewToAllShit said:
So what happens now, the Stock market is down, the Crypto market is down and even Gold is down?
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Not at all. Check out the Bitcoin whitepaper: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdfJames Spader said:
As I understood the entire idea for Bitcoin it was meant to be a safe-haven for investors when all other Investments fail. I think it's disproved now.
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No, if you read the original whitepaper, Bitcoin was originally intended as an electronic currency. It failed spectacularly at that goal, because its value is so unstable. It was proven useless as a real currency, where stability as a store of value is one of several prerequisites for any currency.James Spader said:
As I understood the entire idea for Bitcoin it was meant to be a safe-haven for investors when all other Investments fail. I think it's disproved now.
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Fails? From zero to whatever $ value you give it? That's a performance of infinite %Golden Fleece said:
No, if you read the original whitepaper, Bitcoin was originally intended as an electronic currency. It failed spectacularly at that goal, because its value is so unstable. In summary, it was proven useless as a real currency, where stability as a store of value is one of several prerequisites for any currency.
Only then was it re-invented as a safe-haven for investors, where recent history has now proven that it has also failed spectacularly in that regard.
Every time that it fails, some new purpose is invented for Bitcoin by its enthusiastic cult members. And, each time, it fails spectacularly.
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If Bitcoin had succeeded on its whitepaper goal, then everyone would now be using it as a currency.JohnnyDoe said:
Fails? From zero to whatever $ value you give it? That's a performance of infinite %
I love FUD
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Be patientGolden Fleece said:
If Bitcoin had succeeded on its whitepaper goal, then everyone would now be using it as a currency.
Instead, it remains a mere speculation with almost no real utility -- and certainly none at all for the masses.
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You are watching background noise.James Spader said:
It's already on the way up...from 22,8K a few hours ago to 23,8K maybe it isn't that bad at all and it will rise quickly again.
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Open the chart, click on LOG button on upper right corner and zoom out. It's like LSD but better rof/% The world suddenly looks sweeter and more colorfulJames Spader said:
Do you think it will be better or worse ? I have nothing else to watch than
https://coinmarketcap.com/
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It is getting there.Golden Fleece said:
If Bitcoin had succeeded on its whitepaper goal, then everyone would now be using it as a currency.
Instead, it remains a mere speculation with almost no real utility -- and certainly none at all for the masses.
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And it's been unpopular and unsuccessful in El Salvador so far and CAR has low internet penetration (around 10%), and those few who have heard about it don't seem particularly enthusiastic to the opaque system that has been set up.JackAlabama said:
In 2022 we can say two countries adopted it as legal tender (CAR, Salvador).
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That is what the mainstream claims. surprise surprise how can they be not biased on this? 😉Sols said:
And it's been unpopular and unsuccessful in El Salvador so far and CAR has low internet penetration (around 10%), and those few who have heard about it don't seem particularly enthusiastic to the opaque system that has been set up.
Time will tell, though, whether it's money laundering and/or speculative investment on a governmental level, or if these countries will change attitudes and embrace bitcoin.
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What you left out of the equation is the fact that there are the hundreds of failures for every technological advance that eventually becomes a success. Bitcoin may become one of those many failures.JackAlabama said:
A liquidity draining event is happening since early 2022 pulling liqudity out from every asset class (and bitcoin is the easiest to sell across the world and with no closing hours nor weekend off), so yes it goes down in price as people try in a rush to cover margin, loans and whatnot debts.
Recently celsius seem to be in utter distress hence adding stress from the inside.
It is getting there.
But this takes of course time.
Peter Thiel is famously for quoting that all network technologies do not make much in the first 10 years and only play their might after these initial 10 years.
In 2022 we can say two countries adopted it as legal tender (CAR, Salvador).
First one and then all at once.
Think back when Facebook became a thing. Early on you were alone on your platform, knew no one from RL and after some turning point suddenly everyone you went to kindergarden with was on it.
And then Facebook started to shape society and elections etc. maybe only just a few years shy of 2020.
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Only if you do not know what to look for. A careful study of the hourly charts shows that Bitcoin bottomed at almost the same time as the stock markets. It also rebounded at the same time as the stock markets. That correlation is a fact well-worth knowing.
No, it's based on reports from El Salvador and CAR.JackAlabama said:
That is what the mainstream claims. surprise surprise how can they be not biased on this? 😉
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