Possibly. I haven't used them in Ukraine (but I have a Raiffeisen account in another country). I was mainly thinking about safety of funds.
Possibly. I haven't used them in Ukraine (but I have a Raiffeisen account in another country). I was mainly thinking about safety of funds.
I proposed a branch of a Western bank in Ukraine precisely to avoid doing business with Ukrainian banks. The same in e.g. Bulgaria or Romania. Also: Come on, it is someone else's barge pole!Martin Everson said:
What kind of country is this? I wouldn't touch a Ukrainian bank with someone elses barge pole.
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Does this apply also to Georgia's HNWI residency? As far as I know, that program does not have any requirement for presence in Georgia.This type of tax residency will not be recognized anywhere but with maybe some aborigines in the outbacks of Australia.
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There is no safety just because name of bank are similar(even not same)😉OTR365 said:
I proposed a branch of a Western bank in Ukraine precisely to avoid doing business with Ukrainian banks. The same in e.g. Bulgaria or Romania. Also: Come on, it is someone else's barge pole!
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Large European banks have a reputation to protect, hence it takes a really big trouble for them to screw their clients the way you described. A case in point: Danske Bank was badly burned in the Baltic States, but quit in good order without damaging their clients.John Spectre said:
If something start to smell in Ukraine, these banks are sell fastly, rebrends and then goes to bankruptcy if needed(and money of clients for sure will fly away).
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Yoyo331998 said:
One one hand, As someone that previously dealt with Ukrainian “government” and banks, I wouldn't even invest 1 cent into this utterly corrupt shi@thole. This place is a De-facto US&UK's vassal. For the past 7 years Ukraine's only purpose was to be pain in the butt for Russia and be a source of migrant workers for EU mainly Poland, But on the other hand Ukraine has very talented and affordable specialists specifically in the IT and tech sector, so outsourcing could be a good idea.
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I don't want to dispel your fairy tale, but ...OTR365 said:
Large European banks have a reputation to protect, hence it takes a really big trouble for them to screw their clients the way you described. A case in point: Danske Bank was badly burned in the Baltic States, but quit in good order without damaging their clients.
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We seem to be talking about different things. I do not see a foreign bank selling & quitting as a problem if the clients are not screwed in the process. Indeed I gave an example of a Danish bank quitting the Baltics. Erste announced it is withdrawing from Ukraine in late 2012. A sale was finalized in April 2013. Plenty of time for a customer to transfer his money elsewhere.John Spectre said:
I don't want to dispel your fairy tale, but ...
For example Erste bank. Large, European, with good reputation. Huh?
Was in Ukraine since 2006, rebrands at 2014 (for remove theoretical ties with mother bank?), 2016 liquidated.
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Again, leaving is not an issue. If you remain as a client when your Austrian owned bank turns Ukrainian, your fault. Clients and employees expectations of permanence are not based in reality. These days you can expect and get loyalty only from a dog.John Spectre said:
Over decades a LOT of world largest banks are come to Ukraine and then leave. Only few left.
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Sure. You are protect banks from reputation/business side and I look on them from client side.
Even if you join the e-residency program you will be taxed in Ukraine AND in France unsell you move your residency.stayh4ppy said:
I cant sell for more than 5k profit in france else i ll be considered as a Professionel seller with all the tax that come with it.
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Exactly.OTR365 said:
Unicredit, Raiffeisen, BNP, Credit Agricole are in my opinion safer than purely Ukrainian banks. I don't see why one would deposit anything over insured limit there. This isn't "Bring all your assets into Ukraine"-program, and if it was, you can definitely count me out.
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marzio said:
Even if you join the e-residency program you will be taxed in Ukraine AND in France unsell you move your residency.
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This program is for those who live the digital nomad lifestyle and never settle in any place for long enough to trigger tax residency.
1. On all income moneystayh4ppy said:
Does the 5% income taxe is on the profit or all the income money?
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You really do though. Many countries tax office will per default say that you are on a “round trip”, if you are trying to “live” like a nomad and not be tax resident any Where. It doesnt work in practise. You will have to be tax resident SOMEWHERE.JustAnotherNomad said:
No, not really. Some countries require that (I believe Portugal does), others don't.
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have you seen examples of such thing in the Ukraine lately ?John Spectre said:
If something start to smell in Ukraine, these banks are sell fastly, rebrends and then goes to bankruptcy if needed(and money of clients for sure will fly away).
The same was repeated many times in Ukraine.
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How. If you do not have for example house in Ukraine and travelling all time, to Europe, Asia, Latam, how you can be tsx resident of Ukraine? If you do not spend most time in the year in Ukraine?NicolasMaduro said:
You really do though. Many countries tax office will per default say that you are on a “round trip”, if you are trying to “live” like a nomad and not be tax resident any Where. It doesnt work in practise. You will have to be tax resident SOMEWHERE.
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