Where to put $10-20K in Asia? As a hedge against the western economies.
Preferably without flying there
Preferably without flying there
I'm asking in the scenario that I already have some BTChernanday said:
In that amount bitcoin + wallet, would be better than anything in Asia I could think of. Your plane ticket to recover your money would be more in some cases than the 10k.
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neat.hk is trustworthy long term?GiGoGo said:
Without a visit you can easily get Neat.Hk personal card with a limit of 100k HKD (12.86 K USD). You can topup with a virtual HK Bank account
With a visit, I would recommend Bank of China HK and convert to JPY, this would be a currency with potential big gains if world economy cracks
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No idea, never triediloveyouguys said:
neat.hk is trustworthy long term?
I don't mind the reporting
I suppose Japan banks don't allow remote opening?
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I'm going to try to be as helpful as I can here. 10-20k is not much, so you are going to need to find a lower income place in Asia like Mongolia, Georgia or perhaps even Cambodia, who is going to see your 10k as a lot of money and have a reason to open your account. The big places like HK and SG are not going to want to open such a small account for the pain in the a*s it will be. Another option you'd have would be to simply buy gold and put in a safe in SG. You can also try EMIs if you trust them. If you are American, banks have to do Facta documents for you which is a nightmare. Even bankers in France now don't want to deal with American customers anymore and had a big row with the French government (there are many Americans in France). Basically French banks complained that Facta laws meant an American account can never truly be closed and it cost them a s**t ton of money to keep open all these dormant accounts and keep reporting them.iloveyouguys said:
I'm asking in the scenario that I already have some BTC
I'm not comfortable with putting more money in BTC
You mean a plane ticket would be more than 10K? It's around 1K for me which is 10% lol, and that's why I was looking for remote bank opening or some kind of remote trustworthy investing service.
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Hedging against the western economies in USD?? ns2iloveyouguys said:
Where to put $10-20K in Asia? As a hedge against the western economies.
Preferably without flying there
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Thank you. I'm non-US non-EUhernanday said:
I'm going to try to be as helpful as I can here. 10-20k is not much, so you are going to need to find a lower income place in Asia like Mongolia, Georgia or perhaps even Cambodia, who is going to see your 10k as a lot of money and have a reason to open your account. The big places like HK and SG are not going to want to open such a small account for the pain in the a*s it will be. Another option you'd have would be to simply buy gold and put in a safe in SG. You can also try EMIs if you trust them. If you are American, banks have to do Facta documents for you which is a nightmare. Even bankers in France now don't want to deal with American customers anymore and had a big row with the French government (there are many Americans in France). Basically French banks complained that Facta laws meant an American account can never truly be closed and it cost them a s**t ton of money to keep open all these dormant accounts and keep reporting them.
For example, if you are a French bank near a place like the American university of Paris, full of Americans and you open 500 accounts a year or something like for American students. Over a 10 year period, a medium size branch will have to be reporting accounts for 5000 people to facta of people who are mostly no longer in the country. And by 20 years it will be 10k. That would require them to hire multiple people full time just to comply with that crap.
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In case if there's a crisis in western countries due to economic problems, war, societal problems, etc. Or if I lose my access to western countriesRunway said:
Hedging against the western economies in USD?? ns2
Or you mean in local currency?
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For that kind of contingency, you may want to look for an unpopulated place, where people look like you and cost of living is low. Cost of Living Index 2020iloveyouguys said:
In case if there's a crisis in western countries due to economic problems, war, societal problems, etc. Or if I lose my access to western countries
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If that is an concern I would look into Switzerland or Australia - I'm not sure that China nor any euro zone country will be safe in that case.iloveyouguys said:
In case if there's a crisis in western countries due to economic problems, war, societal problems, etc. Or if I lose my access to western countries
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iloveyouguys said:
Where to put $10-20K in Asia? As a hedge against the western economies.
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iloveyouguys said:
In case if there's a crisis in western countries due to economic problems, war, societal problems, etc. Or if I lose my access to western countries
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Then in this case is better to have Bitcoin or stablecoins. You can always do an OTC for cash in Europe. Imagine bringing lots of cash in a boat to LesbosMartin Everson said:
In your damn pocket!!!!
Again in your damn pocket!!!!
In a real economic crisis or if you loose access to western countries then again cash is king. Speak to Syrian middle class who ended up refugees from one year to the next with no ability to open a bank account anywhere in the west 😕.
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Have you tried to cross border with 20k cash with you lately? They have it counted before you take it out of your pocket.Martin Everson said:
In your damn pocket!!!!
Again in your damn pocket!!!!
In a real economic crisis or if you loose access to western countries then again cash is king. Speak to Syrian middle class who ended up refugees from one year to the next with no ability to open a bank account anywhere in the west 😕.
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daxbr said:
Have you tried to cross border with 20k cash with you lately? They have it counted before you take it out of your pocket.
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GiGoGo said:
Then in this case is better to have Bitcoin or stablecoins. You can always do an OTC for cash in Europe. Imagine bringing lots of cash in a boat to Lesbos
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Felony structuring, if it happens to be US border. His idea of prepositioning $20k k in strategic locations is generally valid and addresses your Syrian concerns of lack of financial base.Martin Everson said:
$20k into 1000chf notes is only 20 notes you know 🙄
BTC is an option but BTC is way too volatile as a store of value. The day you need it your BTC may be worth only 1500 each....lol.
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Where to put $10-20K in Asia? As a hedge against the western economies.
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