What investment is making you 10%+ yearly?

[deraty]

Hi Jaym.

There are lots of casino prop firms. I do not quite understand how people can throw money to those.

Most reliable as I know, are, FTMO and The5'ers. They have been in the business for a long time.

Also there are Hantec trader, ICFunded and Oanda labs backed by strong companies.

But in prop firms if you lose around 10% of the capital, you account is cancelled.

I am also with FTMO. But best choice is Darwinex zero. There is no drawdown limit and it is well regulated. Do not look at comments on the internet - most of theother prop firms are scam. You can event establish your white label Hedge fund with Darwinez zero infrastructure. There is not drawdown limit.

Here is Darwinex zero:

https://www.darwinexzero.com/capital-allocation

They give you assets under management. You can even purchase instant allocation where they give you 100K under your management forever. I purchased that.

You can click on the link and sign up. If you want to save 25% for the signup - PM me. I will give you a discount code - you will have a 25% discount. I guess my post will not banned becuse if you don't PM me you can already click on the link and signup without fee and discount.

My ratinh Darwinex today is 72% and in a short time I will make a good ROI.

Thank you.

 

[10101]

Okay, let's assume there are some rare legit "prop firms" out there. Logically they would only have an interest to let the best 1% trade with their money. People with a decade+ in daily trading experience. But they could also use some self developed algos, problably safer.
Everything you've read/seen about "prop firms' is a scam! Same goes for trading gurus, EAs and signals. It's all a scam.
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There's really no need to trade forex over someone else's capital.
Lots of good brokers provide a x500 leverage. Most of these also allow this leverage on metal and stock index CFDs.
$1000 of your own capital becomes tradeable $500,000.
Can't recommend to anyone without years of trading experience, you gonna fail.

 

[alistera]

Like everyone said, go long S&P on low cost ETF, even better if you can wait for a correction like the past months and go long if you can offset the psychology of the markets making sure you are too fearful to enter a long when the markets are capitulating, honestly it was an easy trade given there is PPT at -20%, so was BA Boeing under 140 like 60% return to date, if you can get the right knowledge you can make these trades most months and quarters or at worst yearly, only that knowledge is inside the institutions and those that supply them.

 

[10101]

Better do your own research, pick the best 20, 30 or 40 stocks out of the S&P or Nasdaq and hold them long term.
Therefore you don't pay the ETF fees and could possibly outperform the indices. BTW you also then own the companies, not just just a stupid ETF certificate.
Additionally put 10% of your capital in bitcoin and another 10% in gold.

What warren buffet and the finance elite do: sell and accumulate cash when the market is overbought like the last years, wait for stock crash, buy when the market is down -30%, -50%. Meanwhile park cash in short-term bonds.

 

[Davis123]

Don't over trade or use larger lots unless you know exactly what you are doing

 

[Davis123]

I think trading on prop firm like ftmo and a personal broker is same.

 

[deraty]

Yes. Also darwinez zero has no DD limit. I am fine with them. Not paid yet - but I am in profit and will get paid soon.

 

[Davis123]

Strange. All reputable brokers require DD limits.

 

[Nicholas Van Orton]

@deraty Do I read it correctly that by paying €1,295 you're getting a €100K permanent allocation? What is the % profit distribution? What happens if you lose part of it?

NVO

 

[deraty]

Nothing happens if you lose it - it is permanent I guess. You get 15% of the profits as a fee. I also have FTMO with 90% distribution. But as you can imagine one bird in hand is better than two birds on a tree - it lets a dd. If you lose it with a margin call - it will be lost. By saying you will not lose it - I mean 10% loss will make you have 90.000 USD.Not lose totally.

 

[satisstandard]

I'm making 100% annually (on average) for the last 9 years. Doign nothing. Yeah it's Bitcoin, but you are completely insane to ignore such an obvious investment.

 

[happyjohn]

How have you structured your investment strategy, if you don’t mind sharing a bit about it, maybe the rest of us can learn something from it?

 

[belarus]

If the stocks marked all was ripp off no one would invest in Stocks! I believe @Davis123 is right, it is all about to learn be you do investments in stocks.

 

[Davis123]

It's a learning process. There are good supports to bounce from and sometimes these supports and resistances all break off with heavy push . Some people make awesome money in cryptos due to no news effect in crypto as compared to stocks, fx and commodities. Gold did a heavy sell off during NFP this Friday. Let's see if! Monday there is a pullback then sell off again. Gold market was due for a correction as market is already too high thanks to worldwide inflation.

 

[Davis123]

I use FTMO only. I agree Apex is a ripoff. I have seen your trade has gone to server message on platforms without the actual trade running for hours. Those trades get frozen. You have to click 5 to 10 times sometimes

 

[Davis123]

Congratulations . You had the right opportunity

 

[daniels27]

You should read the first post. This thread is not a crypto thread.

 

[HardRJones]

You could have made the most boneheadedly obvious play this year on market index tracking ETFs and gotten your 10%+ for the year in one month back in April. Ten percent per annum is easy if you are a) patient and b) not greedy.

One of my “autopilot” accounts in which I only trade regional macroeconomic trends using index tracking ETFs. If you rotated in at near the bottom of the US market tariff pullback you are up over ten percent in one month. If you bought Hang Seng index tracking ETFs when the HKSE was at generational lows last year you are up 30% on a one year timeframe. If you bought GDAX tracking ETFs in January at the height of the German recession worries you are up over 10% YTD. If you bought Nikkei tracking ETFs when the yen carry trade unwound last year you are up over 10%. These ETFs are also delivering 3-5% dividend yield in addition to the capital appreciation mentioned. This is free money with minimal risk.

 

[Matade]

Global stock indices like VT are not risky.

Keeping your money in cash which inflates or into cryptos which will get destroyed by CCP quantum computers within 5 years is risky.

Keeping your money in gold is even riskier, since anyone can take it from you.

Real estate is risky, too, since it's localized risk with no diversification and no liquidity. And can be taxed to hell and back.

I guess you have treasury bonds, but ...

 

[Matade]

Nobody can time bottoms. Worthless "IF".