Russian President Putin announces military operation in Ukraine

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Yup, it is⁢ sick. 300k dead Ukrainians and maybe 30-50k dead Russians. Plus, all the civilians lost in︀ Ukraine and Donbass.
 
Serbia should join the US-EU sanctions against Russia, Economy Minister Rade Basta said Monday on‌ social media.

“Our country is already paying a high price for not sanctioning Russia and‍ that’s becoming unbearable,” Basta declared on Twitter and Instagram. “I am for sanctioning Russia, and⁠ I have full confidence in President [Aleksandar] Vucic’s defense of our state and national interests,⁤ which is why I ask all other ministers and the cabinet to make a decision⁣ on the matter.”

https://www.rt.com/news/572929-serbia-basta-russia-sanctions/
 
Impoverishment of western countries‍ ,a deindustrialising germany and switch to planned econemy (communism)

They surely will do after what US/EU did to them /irony off︀
 
Ok folks I think this thread has run its course. I would like to thank‌ all the contributors on what is a very contentious but important debate. But its time‍ to move on and the forum to get back its main focus.

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By the way, I've imposed a fresh package of sanction onto the US defence (I‌ don't remember his rank) ... Lloyd .... (what's his seconds name?)
And it comes into‍ affect tomorrow at 11:00 Pacific Time.

Let's see what you'll do in return, you Mr.⁠ Lloyd! (what's his second name again?) Ahhhhaaahhhaaa
 
Joke of the year.......Western leaders are clowning themselves by doing this type of drama....Zelenskyy circus‌ is not enough..so they bring this nonsense
 
Did anyone truly foresee what would unfold when Putin launched the war in Ukraine ,‌ and how it would reshape the global landscape? The conflict has triggered a cascade of‍ changes, most for the worse: economic instability, geopolitical tension, rising authoritarianism, and a general sense⁠ of insecurity.

The world feels less predictable, less safe, and far more divided than before.⁤
 
No I didn't but Donald Trumps first 180⁤ days in office has done more economic harm and delivered more global instability than Russia's⁣ multi year war. It has had a greater impact then the war globally. The cutting⁢ of USAID will apparently result in more deaths globally than the war in Ukraine. Also︀ his tariff war may disrupt global trade and will lead to more job loses, instability︁ and poverty. Hopefully he tacos out before August 7th or the legal case going through︂ court will at some point in future deem his tariffs unconstitutional and they get reversed︃ as he did not get approval by congress.

What the war has shown however is︄ that countries are now looking at their trade exposure and currency exposure due to seizure︅ of Russia assets i.e some countries have repatriated their gold even. Reducing exposure is something︆ China did in first Trump term with its energy mix supply and reducing its dependency︇ on US as an export market. US exports now make up less then 3% of︈ China's GDP hence why Trump is the one now begging for meetings with China....lol. Germany︉ did not diversify its export markets for its heavy industries plus was hooked on a︊ cheap Russian energy model. They are soon to be hooked on expensive US LNG model︋ having agreed a one sided trade deal with US.

All in all the Ukraine war︌ has shown me the US is no friend of Europe, Ukraine, its neighbors or any︍ country and cannot be relied upon as a partner in any area including climate change.︎ Russia having to fight a US proxy war in Ukraine and basically take on NATO️ and holding its corner should be ringing alarm bells in Brussels. How are billions being‌ spent in Ukraine with no positive outcome in the conflict? Also Putin somehow managed to‍ plan extremely well to protect his economy by having an independent financial system that has⁠ survived huge sanctions, asset seizure, almost total disconnection from SWIFT, travel bans etc etc. I⁤ remember they even practiced a disconnect of their systems from global internet before the war....talk⁣ about planning overkill.The Russian economy should be completely dead but it is not. Other countries⁢ need to study and learn from what Russia did geopolitically.

I hope peace will come︀ at some point as Russia has taken over 20% of Ukraine and even areas that︁ contain minerals 😕.

https://liveuamap.com/

P.S I think now all alliances and double standards have been︂ exposed geopolitically its actually a more predictable world we live in.
 
That was no secret.

Brzezinski wrote a book about the future role of ukraine

The Grand Chessboard from 1997

Also there is a new agenda to it.
Which specific group‌ always wanted for centuries to own the ukrainian soil ?
Which countries citizen will be‍ forced soon to find a new home ?
 
My amor⁠ Panameño, this is not how it works

you have to pass by here and reply⁤ to me before posting in any other thread, stop hiding from the repercussions of your⁣ own words.
 
What can you say, some people just never learn. And I wouldn’t be surprised if‌ Putin kicks off a war in Europe soon. Then we’ll all be standing there acting‍ smart in hindsight.
 
Very well put.

Why would you not be surprised? I do not︂ understand how anyone can independently reach that conclusion. There are zero indicators for that happening.︃ The only possibility of thinking that scenario is possible is if you watch or read︄ mainstream media that tells you Putin is looking to take over Europe.
 
expacially it would make sense to wait till europe weapons up and increases their military reserves⁤ heavily 🙂 before attacking europe if there would be such a plan.

2027 a KEY YEAR⁣
 
Ruslan doesn’t have the resources to start a war against NATO countries the way things‌ look right now, and they definitely don’t have the equipment for it either. That’s probably‍ why Europe is in such a damn hurry to rearm.
 
there will be no war in europe at least not from russia.

There are two⁤ options which will need a bigger military which is pandemic II or civil war caused⁣ by the conflict in middle east.
The first option fits the date till when the⁢ higer military reserves needs to be fullfilled.
Military service even for the old ones in︀ germany for example is not to send them to the front but to run a︁ somehow working plan econemy in a big crisis.
the so called transition to the nwo.︂

Or someone really belives that all the new military reserves created in europe are going︃ to war against russia ?
Who in russia would even want to fight against europe︄ and for what ?Putin has already now issues to keep the fighiting numbers high and︅ in europe noone wants to go to war against russia.Even ukraines are tired and boycotting︆ the ukrainian MP who are trying to catch people for the military
 
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