Meeting Between Trump and Zelensky
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How can︁ you talk about nuclear weapons so brazenly? You do realise that nuclear war would be︂ the end of the planet. "Protect itself with a shield" what garbage.
The only thing︃ you are right about is Europe's non existent military capability. But the idea that we︄ will be speaking Russian is complete nonsense.
I've posted this so many times yet nobody︅ seems to be able to counter it. Why would Putin be interested in Europe? He︆ has the largest land mass in the world, with such a diverse population that is︇ not easy to keep together. What benefits would he get from taking on Europe? Absorbing︈ several islamic republics with failing economies doesn't seem very sensible, just one big headache.
All I have ever seen is Russians looking to work with the West, supplying cheap energy︉ and going about their business. Where is this expansionist talk stemming from? It's primary school︊ type propaganda.
Russia and the USA should reconcile, the USA should leave NATO, push Germany︋ into two separate states, and see the end of the EU. That would be a︌ net benefit for the world IMO.
The only thing︃ you are right about is Europe's non existent military capability. But the idea that we︄ will be speaking Russian is complete nonsense.
I've posted this so many times yet nobody︅ seems to be able to counter it. Why would Putin be interested in Europe? He︆ has the largest land mass in the world, with such a diverse population that is︇ not easy to keep together. What benefits would he get from taking on Europe? Absorbing︈ several islamic republics with failing economies doesn't seem very sensible, just one big headache.
All I have ever seen is Russians looking to work with the West, supplying cheap energy︉ and going about their business. Where is this expansionist talk stemming from? It's primary school︊ type propaganda.
Russia and the USA should reconcile, the USA should leave NATO, push Germany︋ into two separate states, and see the end of the EU. That would be a︌ net benefit for the world IMO.
after watching all available footage from the meeting and some interviews (interesting was with Rubio for example) it seems that Zelensky doesn't know how to (at least temporarily) regulate his own ego and ambitions when dealing with an egoistic psychopath (and surprisingly there is nobody in his team to tell him)
mmm, and these people are just crazy fanatics about putin and they have 0 questions when he poses a real threat and starts threatening with nuclear weapons. But when ordinary people on the forum said about nuclear weapons as a defense mechanism, they start whining about escalation and the desire for a nuclear war. Well, hypocrisy of the highest degree
I would recommend that we maintain a respectful tone in this thread. Even though it’s a sensitive topic, everyone has the right to express their opinion without being criticized or subjected to verbal attacks.
no, thats︁ largely overblown fear as dont have that many people, Russia only has the population size︂ of Japan and above Germany, half of it are also women.
Only China could occupy︃ Europe thru a standing army they have more than enough men, or the thing which︄ is happening currently is doing its job pretty well too, but Russia simply doesnt have︅ the manpower to keep europe occupied thru a standing army.
Only China could occupy︃ Europe thru a standing army they have more than enough men, or the thing which︄ is happening currently is doing its job pretty well too, but Russia simply doesnt have︅ the manpower to keep europe occupied thru a standing army.
Can you post a full speech transcript or video where Putin has explicitly threatened the use of nuclear weapons? I have only ever seen Putin’s statements about nuclear weapons to be reactive, in response to Western escalations.
After all,︀ Russia's nuclear doctrine states that nuclear weapons are only to be used if Russia’s sovereignty︁ or existence is at stake. When ordinary people on forums talk about using nukes for︂ defense, they are usually dumb and advocate for first-strike scenarios, which is a guaranteed way︃ to turn a local war into WW3. Putin’s nuclear rhetoric is intended as a deterrent...︄
After all,︀ Russia's nuclear doctrine states that nuclear weapons are only to be used if Russia’s sovereignty︁ or existence is at stake. When ordinary people on forums talk about using nukes for︂ defense, they are usually dumb and advocate for first-strike scenarios, which is a guaranteed way︃ to turn a local war into WW3. Putin’s nuclear rhetoric is intended as a deterrent...︄
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"Alphas don’t waste time on betas,they build empires."
"The pack follows the Alpha; the rest are forgotten."
"Greatness doesn’t negotiate with mediocrity."
"The top of the food chain doesn’t look down,it looks ahead."
"Alphas align, betas fall in line."
"The strong thrive together; the weak get left behind."
"Dominance isn’t given,it’s earned and recognized."
"The rule of the jungle: only the strong survive together."
"Alphas don’t compete,they conquer and collaborate."
"The hierarchy is clear: lead, follow, or get out of the way."
"Winners don’t play with losers,they rewrite the rules."
"The Alpha’s circle︀ is exclusive for a reason."
"In the game of life, Alphas don’t settle for less."︁
"Strength attracts strength; weakness fades into the background."
"Alphas don’t waste time on betas,they build empires."
"The pack follows the Alpha; the rest are forgotten."
"Greatness doesn’t negotiate with mediocrity."
"The top of the food chain doesn’t look down,it looks ahead."
"Alphas align, betas fall in line."
"The strong thrive together; the weak get left behind."
"Dominance isn’t given,it’s earned and recognized."
"The rule of the jungle: only the strong survive together."
"Alphas don’t compete,they conquer and collaborate."
"The hierarchy is clear: lead, follow, or get out of the way."
"Winners don’t play with losers,they rewrite the rules."
"The Alpha’s circle︀ is exclusive for a reason."
"In the game of life, Alphas don’t settle for less."︁
you forgot the main quote: "you︂ can be an Alpha fan, but still remain a loser". this quote fits better 😉
100%. Fans getting ripped off by their so-called "Alpha" leader!
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-supporters-horrified-value-truth-141358796.html
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-supporters-horrified-value-truth-141358796.html
If he wasn't going to sign he shouldn't have come, he could just have done an open letter in the NYT about how he'd like to have more cooperation, but this didn't suit Ukraine in its current form.
If he was going to sign, he should have been prepared to suck up a bit. Open with gratitude. And ffs if English is your third language and it might be contentious use an interpreter, if only to give you thinking time. I think getting the hero treatment (despite setting the Istanbul deal on fire) in Western news media gave him the impression he could "do politics"︀ in the Anglosphere.
They took a few pokes at Stamer, and he just brushed them︁ off.
If he was going to sign, he should have been prepared to suck up a bit. Open with gratitude. And ffs if English is your third language and it might be contentious use an interpreter, if only to give you thinking time. I think getting the hero treatment (despite setting the Istanbul deal on fire) in Western news media gave him the impression he could "do politics"︀ in the Anglosphere.
They took a few pokes at Stamer, and he just brushed them︁ off.
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