Made a HUGE mistake in my life, Need Serious Advice (long post warning)

[Martin Everson]

Just be thankful your actions︅ didn't lead to your accounts being used for terrorist funding. You have a criminal record︆ now which will only increase so your options are limited going forward.

Lesson to all...don't︇ ever do crime and especially in your home country and always have a second passport.︈

P.S Ignore the knuckleheads giving bad advice. You are a convicted criminal whether you like︉ it or not. You need to think wisely about your future under these circumstances.

 

[jafo]

Yet...
His home country could do a superseding indictment‍ 🙄

 

[bingbong]

Am certainly doing a lot⁢ of thinking lately, so this is how it feels living on borrowed time.

Which led︀ me thinking.. how DOES someone with a criminal record live a life?

Putting aside my︁ situation at the moment, say someone commits a victimless crime, the crime being defined by︂ the gov. as a crime, just because.

For example someone smokes weed or is caught︃ being gay (which is illegal in my country, i.e."sodomy", whatever that means)

They can't get︄ a job, nor can they get a second passport at this point to start over.︅

What then? I'm genuinely curious.

I've seen a few service providers in the marketplace who︆ sell nominee services, if they'd be kind enough to chime in and share how their︇ nominees end up and how they dealt with their situations when the clients use the︈ accounts for illegal acts.

 

[Martin Everson]

There are many people with criminal records who go on to‍ lead productive lives. Some ex-cons even go on to become lawyers etc depending on the⁠ country. Your in your 20's so are still very young and have your entire life⁤ ahead of you.

You have to rebuild your life within your limitation. A criminal conviction while young︃ should not stop you from achieving greatness. In terms of a CBI passport its a︄ wrap but for jobs not a big issue if self employed or entrepreneurial. The question︅ is will you want to be looking over your shoulder for rest of your life︆ or face the music.

 

[lmd95]

I think this don’t apply to Europe︁ … it’s way more « forgiving here »
Actually if you didn’t do some «︂ inhumane » crime here (like murder rape or like anything related to violence or drugs)︃ a record will never stop you to get a job here

 

[jafo]

Search the statute of limitations on your crime!

Definition: a statute prescribing a period of limitation︂ for the bringing of certain kinds of legal action.

There may be one. It may︃ only be three years.

E.g. here is one vis-à-vis Singapore:
Limitation Periods: What’s the Deadline︄ for Suing in Singapore?

PS. Technically, in Singapore, there is NO statute of limitations in︅ criminal matters. I say technically because once self-preservation enters the equation, all bets are off.︆

PSS. I chose Singapore because they are known to be hardnosed about these things 🙄

 

[elcontestador]

What's the incentive for his country's law enforcement to seek⁣ out such a deal? If they can't put the OP in prison, what else could⁢ they gain from him? Bail money?

I assume those people can't get a bank account in their country︇ of residence, so they are either forced to reply on the Nominee services, or do︈ everything with cash? Isn't it getting harder these days to go by with cash alone?︉ Not to mention the risk of theft

OP, I'm very sorry it happened to you.︊ It could have happened to anyone young/inexperienced.

If you need a citizenship ASAP, maybe look︋ into marriage? Isn't it the fastest way to citizenship? And in the less well-off countries︌ locals might be interested in helping you out that way. Just speculating, never did it︍ myself.

Playing US green card lottery is an option, but I don't know if it'd︎ be possible for you to pass their interview in an event of a win.

You said your country is good with bribes. Maybe you know someone who knows someone higher-up️ who could help close that case for you?

 

[jafo]

Statute of limitations! Once it runs out, the crime⁠ prescribes and it's a stain on their career. Some even have ambitions for a political⁤ career. The ambitious parasites can't have a guy (the OP) out there running around offering⁣ them a fair deal to dispense justice and bring some relief to the victims, and⁢ they are snubbing him. Will make them look really bad...especially if OP is a vengeful︀ person! 😉

You just gave me a great idea for OP.

@bingbong - All these "refugees" are coming︇ to Europe on a boat from Africa and getting new IDs and whatnot. New names︈ etc etc. Why can't you?



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[SasuT]

Sorry to ask this question but I guess not be able to see your family‌ is the hardest part on living a life like that. How do you handle it‍ and still not to go to your home country? I could not.

I hope the⁠ outcome will be positive brother. Stay strong

 

[bingbong]

Good morning. For mine, it's the same as Singapore -︀ no statute of limitations in criminal matters.

So yeah. I guess the point of buying︁ time is like you said not so much on the limitation period but drag it︂ out so they get fed up and would settle for some deal.

The thing is︃ though, even after settling - I still won't be able to have a bank account︄ and the criminal record is still there.

So I'm thinking what's the point - no︅ matter what the outcome, my home country will always be inhospitable to me, like for︆ life.

Thanks for your⁤ suggestions, those seem like viable routes for regular folks but in my case I have⁣ a record as I did plead guilty like twice (which was a huge mistake) but⁢ yeah the country is good with bribes - and the letter of good conduct is︀ issued by the police so there's maybe something there to explore.

Thanks for sharing but that seems extremely risky lol

Oh, my friends and family do︋ visit me pretty frequently, or we'll just meet up in a neighbouring country.

I do︌ miss my pet though 🙁

 

[jafo]

This is the saddest‌ for me! cry&¤

If he goes back,⁤ he can get caged and then shipped out to a prison in an area of⁣ the country too far for his family to visit. People in "government" are petty people.⁢ Their entire raison d'être is to hurt others. Hurt people hurt people!

cry&¤ I'm so sorry to hear this.

 

[Wellington]

You don't want to︇ be a money mule in Thailand lol.

They are clamping down on those, and it︈ isn't fines or bribes...

 

[jesuschrist]

I think you answered it to yourself. If you don't see how can you live in‍ your home country search another home.
Forget the Caribbean passports, they will disable your passport⁠ for the smallest request.

Your best option is probably getting residency and later citizenship through⁤ marriage in a different country,
Do you speak Chinese? Since you mentioned you are ethnic⁣ Chinese perhaps you can go to China and get a citizenship there, a big plus⁢ for you that China doesn't extradite their own citizens.

If you really had no idea︀ what was happening with your bank accounts I'm sorry for you, this happens to a︁ lot of young people.
I wish you the best.

 

[jafo]

Yep! Good catch,‌ BTW.
You hit the nail right on the head! Any request (positive⁠ or negative) and one can kiss their passport *ss goodbye!
#Bingo They also are aware that many fraudsters have scammed their︀ own Chinese citizens, so they are more forgiving. Even some party leaders elderly parents got︁ scammed, used, & abused by these scammers. Most lost their life savings. And definitely, the︂ Chinese do NOT extradite their own. I remember in the 80s and 90s former college︃ buddies working then in 3-letter agencies telling stories that the Chinese MLAT counterparts won't even︄ acknowledge the existence of ANY request that included Chinese citizens. rof/%
It happened to me in︇ the 80s. My own older brother, married to a suspicious family in Miami, fooled me︈ and scammed me as soon as I turned 18 (an adult there), into signing a︉ life insurance that in the case of my early "departure" would allow them, the beneficiaries,︊ to collect the sum of $250K. Mind you, I was in the US with a︋ student visa & a full-blown academic scholarship to do a double major in Electrical &︌ Computer Engineering. doh948""

That "was family". Those were people my mom & dad reared and trusted︍ and "forced" me to trust them also, notwithstanding my trepidation and objections. Talk about gullibility︎ and stupidity mixed and empowered. doh948""

So, yes...if you had parents who warned you about these️ things (I didn't - the Southern Europeans were all about "family"), you can easily escape‌ becoming a target. On the other hand, I did have Northern Europeans as neighbors who‍ REALLY warned me and told me my parents were COMPLETELY wrong, so due to these⁠ Northern Europeans, I was able to avoid life's disasters.

PS. I was born and grew⁤ up on a Northern European colonial island where my "Southern European" parents were immigrants &⁣ everyone trusted everyone and nobody locked their doors, so the concept of scams was alien⁢ to me, although I did have the elderly (Northern Europeans) on the island warn me︀ that America is NOT "the good/angelic place" they portrayed in Hollywood...and neither was the world!︁

 

[Mike Forman]

Although this situation feels dramatic from closeby there are much worse things than this. You‌ haven't murdered someone or set up a large tax fraud, where you can get 30‍ years to life sentence. Why would someone even suggest here asking for asylum in the⁠ EU, that's ridiculous.

Spending some months in jail isn't the end of the world and⁤ as you said you can pay of the cops or pay some fine.

Life is⁣ a wave with its ups and downs, just see this as a lesson and move⁢ on.

Since you have 5 years on your passport and already moved abroad, open a︀ business in a SEA country or multiple countries you want to reside, obtain residence and︁ open personal and business bank accounts.

One problem is already solved this way as you︂ can store your savings on accounts, have your residence set in that country so no︃ crs to your home country. With your debit and credit card and well EMI you︄ can pay and withdraw in your home country.

After a few years when you plan︅ to go back or when you need to renew your passport, just face the consequences.︆ You will not be put on red alert with interpol for such a small crime︇ so unless you go back to your home country you have no risk.

You don't︈ need a lawyer for each case, find a good lawyer for one or a few︉ cases, do your homework and use the same oppositions used by the lawyer to handle︊ your other cases.

Take it easy, how you are acting and panicking now is worse︋ than being in jail. Accept things as they come and handle them in a calm︌ way, in the end this is just an experience in life.. one of the many.︍

 

[bingbong]

Yes I do speak Mandarin, and Cantonese. I'm wondering though what happens if my current︂ passport expires prior to obtaining the citizenship? And yes I have absolutely no idea -︃ and that's the issue, I don't know how many victims there are, i.e. how many︄ potential cases!

Jafo, I︅ get what you mean especially the part where about trusting everyone and the idea of︆ scams being foreign to you.

It's like - you would never do such a thing︇ so you can't fathom someone being so evil as to commit such acts.

I was︈ scammed on a dating site before this, thankfully only got my feelings hurt and lost︉ my time - but now this lol.

Hi Mike,︈ thanks for chiming in. You can tell I'm panicking eh? Still have a bit of︉ PTSD from jail lol it was bad, like real bad...

Thanks for outlining some short︊ term and long term solutions.

Ok, so for now yes I've incorporated a UK LTD︋ and have gotten an EMI for it [UK > Possible route?]

Next step is -︌ like you mentioned, incorporating companies in the region and/or getting those nomad/freelancer residencies.

Am doing︍ work online to accumulate capital, regardless of what I choose to do I'm gonna need︎ it.

As for the cases - I don't know man... still kinda terrified of the️ whole process.

 

[elcontestador]

Shooting themselves in the‍ foot, are they? Why would anyone risk investing into their passport if it's so easily⁠ revoked?

 

[Martin Everson]

Because they are not a criminal and lead normal lives but just‍ unfortunate to be born in a country with a weak passport.

 

[JohnnyDoe]

elcontestador said:
Shooting themselves in the foot, are they? Why would anyone risk investing into their passport if it's so easily revoked?
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these banana republics must show that they have “strong due diligence processes” with facts.

Nb I say banana republics not because of the locals, who are nice and form a real nation, but of their politicians. Look at Skerrit in Dominica, for example.

Last edited: Nov 2, 2023
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[jafo]

I applaud you for thinking‌ way ahead of the curve. They, the passport issuers, can't. I don't know why. Their‍ motto is the same as in Nigeria: "Now now!"
To them, instant gratification is everything.⁠