How to collect payments from risk countries?

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2fire

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We are Swiss based company, which producing medical products. Our products are not restricted by‌ any sanctions and can be exported globally including heavily sanctioned countries.

We have bank accounts‍ in Switzerland / UK / EU which are perfectly working for EU / UAE and⁠ plenty of others “normal” countries.

Problem:
Even bank stating that they working with some “risk”⁤ countries, payments in EUR constantly bounced or blocked for months in intermediaries banks. For example⁣ from such countries like Palestine, Jordan, Mozambique, Morocco, Iraq, Cambodia. I even not talking about⁢ Russia, Syria, Iran, Afghanistan.

What we currently do to collect payments:
For “risk” countries we︀ use our subsidiary in UAE and invoicing clients in AED, which not very welcomed by︁ our clients but works smoothly for incoming payments from MENA.

Why I do not like︂ it:
Working via subsidiary requires extra expenses and not convenient.

What I want:
I am︃ looking for a legit solutions to collect payment for our goods from “risk” and “high︄ risked” list countries.

What I am thinking to do:
Solution 1. I am thinking to︅ rent several warehouses across the globe in free customs zones for faster delivery of goods︆ + offshore bank account for receivables.

Or

Solution 2. To open local subsidiary which will︇ perform such activities like warehousing & processing payments (collecting payments for sold goods and forwarding︈ them to Swiss company, like collecting various companies for food delivery and then transferring money︉ to restaurants).

What is your opinion about above mentioned problems and possible solutions?
 
Use UAE its not in red zone for nothing

Open a branch of your company‌ in freezone in UAE and recive the payment through it then to your swiss account‍

No taxes and no fees and you can open a warehohse there 2
 
Dear Alexmorgan,
Thank you for your opinion.

What is worrying me about⁤ Swiss company’s branch is that Swiss company would be fully liable for branch.

Let’s say⁣ someone decided to attack Swiss company and they figured out to place 1M EUR fine⁢ on this branch, then I wouldn’t be able to protect business in Swiss court and︀ I don’t believe in fair court for FZ.

In FZ I am thinking to have︁ UAE mainland subsidiary’s branch for warehousing & payment processing (if permissible by law and accepted︂ by banks)
or
warehousing & offshore bank accounts for Swiss entity.

Dear Azertylo,

Thank you for your comment.
Do you think they would open bank account for︄ Swiss company?
 
Grüezi!

I'm Swiss-based too (in Zug!) I sell to all the countries︋ you just mentioned. I solved this a few years ago by having them pay me︌ in USDT and I cash them in or forward part of it to my façonnier︍ in other countries.

It's extremely simple.

FREUNDLICHE GRÜSSE
 
You may use crypto payments for such countries. Everyone knows that the countries you are‌ mentioning are only trouble.
 
@2fire already has a UAE subsidiary 😉
It's not true anymore, unfortunately (except just for some cases). (But 9%⁤ is not so bad.)
Sorry but it⁣ was never true.
True.
Well, understandable. Honestly, I am unable to give any opinion︄ re: FZ companies and courts as I am lacking the information. But @Fred here would︅ be competent, I guess.
I am afraid that offshore banking in UAE will not work. There is︆ enough of obstacles for local companies...

If you try e.g. Standard︉ Bank, you can have a luck. But I would consider perhaps better solution – choose︊ one African country that you have business operations in, try to find e. g. Standard︋ Bank (or some other bank that is present across the Africa) there, open an account︌ with them (it should be somehow possible as you have a business presence) and then︍ try to open an account with the same bank in some non-problematic but tolerant country︎ (might be South African Republic). I guess that payments from the country of operations to️ the non-problematic country can work, as it is transferring money between the accounts in the‌ same name with the same bank; and then transfers to CH, too.

Generally:
OK
You have︂ probably some reasons for using EUR; but I would be afraid that it wo'nt work︃ well. EUR is not a good currency for transacting with problematic regions. Altough USD is︄ generally far from being good for anything, for this purpose it can work much better,︅ IMO. And even better is to use e.g. RMB.

OK, understandable.
It might work, IMO – if the︎ zones/jurisdictions are choosen properly. (But as I am not well oriented re: freezones, I can't️ advise.)
Sorry – but what is the difference of this from your UAE solution that⁤ you do not like?
That running the subsidiary especially in UAE is costly and not⁣ convenient – and you are searching just for another jurisdiction? In such a case, I⁢ guess that probably there is not a universal jurisdiction for all the countries you mentioned;︀ but per partes it is solvable... but let's wait for your input 🙂

And yes, as︁ @jafo and @JohnLocke pointed at – I also think that using crypto is an option.︂
 
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