Country selection advice

[JustAnotherNomad]

The company is not in Nevis if it's just you and you⁠ run it from Sweden.
Otherwise every Swedish person would just register a Nevis company instead⁤ of a Swedish company to save taxes and no one would have a Swedish company.⁣
It's not illegal to set up a Nevis company and run it from Sweden, but⁢ then you have to declare it as a Swedish taxpayer and pay tax just as︀ if it was a Swedish company.
If you register the company while you're still living︁ in Sweden, you are creating a Swedish company in the eyes of the tax office,︂ and it will be treated just like a Swedish company when you move abroad. Which︃ may be fine, or it may create a tax liability.

 

[Learner458]

So basically to sum it up, yes it is a good idea to open an‌ LLC in Nevis, and I should definitely tax to a Tax Barrister before proceeding to‍ anything?
Also I'm kind of young so just so I know approximately, what does it⁠ cost to discuss this with a Tax Barrister? Also do you have any agencies that⁤ you'd recommend since I'm currently planning on going with a BBCincorp.

 

[sknomad]

If your proxy servers are︁ outside of EU, services can be exempt from VAT. If service is provided to EU︂ customers and service is provide outside of EU and is provided remotely, this service can︃ be tax exempt.

There is a practical problem of billing customers who pay by credit︄ cards. There is almost no way how you can have a merchant account for offshore︅ company providing proxy service. Even if you find some high risk credit card processor, fees︆ will be too high.

You should consider more complex structure. To be able to bill︇ a clients in EU without loosing too much of money, UK LLP backed by 2︈ offshore companies registered in a jurisdiction with which UK have a DTT can be used.︉

 

[Learner458]

That’s actually an aspect I didn’t consider at all. Really appreciate bringing it to my‌ attention since I currently do use Stripe as a credit card processor.

Though multiple offshore‍ companies and one mainland company seems very complicated for just a 5 figure a month⁠ business. Isn’t there an option where I can just run an LLC with Stripe without⁤ major VAT concerns and 0 tax for when I solve the Swedish Tax Liability issue?⁣

 

[ilke]

It is a fine idea, not great,‍ maybe there would be better alternatives because Nevis is really hard to bank but provides⁠ quite a lot of protection. It depends on where you move, places without PE (or⁤ no enforcement of such), you could run a transparent company like a US LLC which⁣ will distribute directly to you and get banking easier.
I do not︀ think you need one in this case but you could.

The main fact to consider︁ is that as long as you live in Sweden, any foreign company you register will︂ become a Swedish tax resident.
They get︄ the job done but they are not great for consulting you/providing recommendations based on your︅ situation. If you just need the incorporation and everything arranged, it is alright.

Also take︆ @sknomad's ideas into account because VAT could be avoidable this way and the UK︇ LLP is also quite a reasonable idea. You could appoint 1 offshore company and yourself︈ as partners; you have to disclose the PSC either way.
The US LLC, probably.

Or just a local company in a country︍ you move to with low(er) taxes, that should not have a problem getting some card︎ processing either.

 

[Learner458]

Yeah I do have a competitor who I talk to since we’re friendly and he‌ is running a US LLC but the main reason I don’t like it is since‍ the jurisdiction. Firstly it’s very easy to get sued and secondly they are too compliant⁠ if you know what I mean. Like I don’t have any problems with compliance but⁤ there are things as too much transparency.

 

[sknomad]

Consider Hong Kong. But you will loose some money o⁣ fees. The same with US LLC. If you form Hong Kong company and all your⁢ servers will be outside of Hong Kong as well as outside of EU, there will︀ be no VAT applicable and you can apply for Offshore income claim so there will︁ be no Corporate tax.
What is a currency in which you have a main costs?︂

 

[Learner458]

Almost all costs are in USD, also I currently resell proxies and don’t actually host‌ the servers. So it’s basically a digital import and export business.

 

[daniels27]

Why would⁠ it be exempt? Any digital service sold to EU customers is subject to VAT. And⁤ while you can hide and just not pay it, that does not mean it is⁣ exempt. Any customer that you make angry can turn you in. They just contact you⁢ credit card company and tell you how much you owe.

 

[daniels27]

Why would Hong Kong be better than the US? Hong Kong is much more transparent⁢ than the US and compliance is much worse. Let alone how is he ever to︀ get past the audit there for less than 10k USD?

 

[providenceventurer]

No first move your a*s and then make the⁠ business move rightly suggested by @daniels27

 

[providenceventurer]

Nevis is good .

 

[Learner458]

Turns out it isn’t due to‌ Stripe not bring available.

 

[Learner458]

I’ll probably settle for a US LLC unless I find a better solution.

 

[Clank]

Stripe will probably end up closing your account so I wouldn't rely on them that‍ much.

 

[Learner458]

Why will they probably end up closing my account? I mean I run a legal‌ business and pay taxes.

 

[providenceventurer]

Having stripe or not cannot decide whether a jurisdiction is good for business or not.You‍ obviously have options for a cloaked stripe account if you want and i am sure⁠ other options are there .A jurisdiction is good if it provides anonymity and also no⁤ foreign courts verdict is applicable there.Nevis is one of them.

 

[Learner458]

Might be a silly question but what is a cloaked stripe account?

 

[daniels27]

In short: It is an account that is for a legit non-risk business.‌ Once approved, you redirect your sales to the legit domain and they pay from there.‍ They cannot see your proxy business.

 

[Learner458]

Ahh I see, so Daniel what would you personally recommend for my situation?